Brian and Gorry,

Thanks for the replies.  We have updated our current version of the document 
with the short/running title suggested by Brian.

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> On Dec 6, 2024, at 6:02 AM, Gorry Fairhurst <go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> On 06/12/2024 12:47, Brian Trammell (IETF) wrote:
>> Not the document title, the short / footer title (which currently reads TAPS 
>> Architecture).
> 
> Aha.
> 
> Yes, I strongly agree with THAT proposal to change "<title abbrev="...:
> 
> Gorry
> 
>>> On 6 Dec 2024, at 13:43, Gorry Fairhurst <go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 06/12/2024 12:37, Brian Trammell (IETF) wrote:
>>>> I’d prefer to update the running title to “Transport Services 
>>>> Architecture” to reflect the other documents.
>>> We debated this in some detail earlier and arrived at:
>>> 
>>> Architecture and Requirements for Transport Services
>>> 
>>> I'm just asking why we need a change now?
>>> 
>>> Gorry
>>> 
>>>> With that change, I approve this revision.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks! Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5 Dec 2024, at 19:49, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Authors,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just an FYI that we have updated the files to include the title change to 
>>>>> RFC-to-be 9622 in the reference entry.  You may review the change in the 
>>>>> files below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please also review the short/running title using TAPS and let us know 
>>>>> if/how this should be updated as it has been changed in the other docs in 
>>>>> this cluster.
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2024, at 12:50 PM, Gorry Fairhurst <go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29/11/2024 13:17, Colin Perkins wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Megan,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Happy with the changes so far.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regarding the <tt> query: I actually think the use of <tt> helps 
>>>>>>> readability, provided we can be sure it’s consistent. It’s not 
>>>>>>> critical, but it helps.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Colin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> +1 It helps, the render I see looks good.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gorry
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 21 Nov 2024, at 20:43, Megan Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Brian and Colin,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick replies. We have a few comments/questions to 
>>>>>>> follow up on:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • Regarding the use of <tt>:
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Please review usage of <tt> in this document, 
>>>>>>> and let us
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> know if any updates are needed. For example, we see
>>>>>>> "to initiate a connection" (no <tt>) and "to Initiate a Connection"
>>>>>>> in the XML file. -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The usage here is not consistent.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The intention is that terms appearing in Figure 4 representing methods 
>>>>>>> are rendered in monospace (this is an implementation of the backtick 
>>>>>>> notation in Markdown, from which these XML files are generated).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <tt> around Listen, Initiate, Rendezvous, Rendezvous, Receive, Send, 
>>>>>>> Close, Abort (as capitalized) should remain; I see some around 
>>>>>>> Connection that are spurious and can be removed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If this styling isn’t supported by the RFC Editor’s renderings of the 
>>>>>>> XML, <tt> can also be safely removed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Before we make any updates to the use of <tt> in this document, we 
>>>>>>> suggest the authors have a look at both:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -the related <tt> query for RFC-to-be 9622 and
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -the html output for RFC-to-be 9622
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and consider how to handle them with the following in mind:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • Whether the large volume of <tt> tags in RFC-to-be 9622, in 
>>>>>>> addition to a heavy amount of capped terms, might actually be 
>>>>>>> distracting to readers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • The author workload necessary to make the use of <tt> tags 
>>>>>>> consistent within RFC-to-be 9622 itself and among the docs in the 
>>>>>>> cluster. Because many of these terms vary in capitalization (see the 
>>>>>>> example in our original query above) or are used sometimes in a general 
>>>>>>> sense or without labels, locating and applying these fixes may prove 
>>>>>>> somewhat difficult.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Note: We are currently completing our review of RFC-to-be 9623, which 
>>>>>>> also uses <tt>.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please let us know how best to proceed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • Regarding the [POSIX] reference, should we update to the 2017 
>>>>>>> or 2024 version?
>>>>>>> All other updates are available for you to review.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please review the files carefully as we do not make changes after 
>>>>>>> publication.
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2024, at 11:03 AM, Brian Trammell (IETF) i...@trammell.ch 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Greetings, all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Answers to editor questions inline, below.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 19 Nov 2024, at 00:29, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Authors,
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> (C508)
>>>>>>> will be sent in separate mail.
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that 
>>>>>>> appear in the
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search . -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Section 1: Per Internet searches, it appears 
>>>>>>> that some
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> consider the BSD Socket API to be distinct from the POSIX Socket API.
>>>>>>> Please confirm that this text will be clear to readers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> Many application programming interfaces (APIs) to provide transport
>>>>>>> interfaces to networks have been deployed, perhaps the most widely
>>>>>>> known and imitated being the BSD Socket [POSIX] interface (Socket
>>>>>>> API). -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We can remove BSD here “…the Socket [POSIX] interface"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Section 1.4: We do not see the terms/words
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Transport Property" or any form of "prohib*" in RFC 8095.
>>>>>>> Please confirm that this citation is correct and will be clear to
>>>>>>> readers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • Transport Property: A property that expresses requirements,
>>>>>>> prohibitions and preferences [RFC8095]. -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I suspect this is vestigial.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> “A property of a transport protocol and the services it provides 
>>>>>>> [RFC8095]."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3: To what does "which are" refer in 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> sentence - the identifiers, the IP addresses, or something else?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> requires applications to specify identifiers for the Local and Remote
>>>>>>> Endpoint that are higher-level than IP addresses, such as a hostname
>>>>>>> or URL, which are used by a Transport Services Implementation for
>>>>>>> resolution, path selection, and racing. -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The identifiers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Please review usage of <tt> in this document, 
>>>>>>> and let us
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> know if any updates are needed. For example, we see
>>>>>>> "to initiate a connection" (no <tt>) and "to Initiate a Connection"
>>>>>>> in the XML file. -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The usage here is not consistent.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The intention is that terms appearing in Figure 4 representing methods 
>>>>>>> are rendered in monospace (this is an implementation of the backtick 
>>>>>>> notation in Markdown, from which these XML files are generated).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <tt> around Listen, Initiate, Rendezvous, Rendezvous, Receive, Send, 
>>>>>>> Close, Abort (as capitalized) should remain; I see some around 
>>>>>>> Connection that are spurious and can be removed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If this styling isn’t supported by the RFC Editor’s renderings of the 
>>>>>>> XML, <tt> can also be safely removed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1.1: To what does "this" refer in this
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> sentence?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Original (the previous sentence is included for context):
>>>>>>> A Remote Endpoint Identifier can also
>>>>>>> represent a multicast group or anycast address. In the case of
>>>>>>> multicast, this selects a multicast transport for communication. -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> NEW: “In the case of multicast, a multicast transport will be selected"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1.2: We do not see "Remote Endpoint
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Identifier" mentioned in Section 4.1.3. Please confirm that this
>>>>>>> citation is correct and will be clear to readers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> It has state that
>>>>>>> describes parameters of the Connection: the Local Endpoint
>>>>>>> Identifier from which that Connection will be established, the
>>>>>>> Remote Endpoint Identifier (Section 4.1.3) to which it will
>>>>>>> connect, and Transport Properties that influence the paths and
>>>>>>> protocols a Connection will use. -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The citation is spurious (probably vestigial) and can be removed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1.3: We changed "fast open support" to
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "support for TCP Fast Open" per usage elsewhere in this cluster and
>>>>>>> per post-6000 published RFCs. Please let us know any objections.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> Examples of properties
>>>>>>> that influence protocol selection and configuration of transport
>>>>>>> protocol features include reliability, multipath support, and fast
>>>>>>> open support.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>> Examples of properties
>>>>>>> that influence protocol selection and configuration of transport
>>>>>>> protocol features include reliability, multipath support, and
>>>>>>> support for TCP Fast Open. -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> While TCP is the only transport protocol supporting a fast open 
>>>>>>> feature, the choice here was deliberate to refer to the class of 
>>>>>>> transport protocol features containing TCP Fast Open in the abstract. 
>>>>>>> Either is fine.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1.7: We had trouble parsing this 
>>>>>>> sentence.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We updated it as follows. If this is incorrect, please clarify the
>>>>>>> text.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • Close: The action an application takes on a Connection to 
>>>>>>> indicate
>>>>>>> that it no longer intends to send data, is no longer willing to
>>>>>>> receive data, and that the protocol should signal this state to
>>>>>>> the Remote Endpoint if the transport protocol allows this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>> Close: The action an application takes on a Connection to indicate
>>>>>>> that it no longer intends to send data or is no longer willing to
>>>>>>> receive data. The protocol should signal this state to the Remote
>>>>>>> Endpoint if the transport protocol permits it. -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> yep this is better (and remains as intended), thanks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1.7: This sentence does not parse. If 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> suggested text is not correct, please clarify how "and immediately
>>>>>>> drop the connection" relates to the rest of the sentence.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • Abort: The action the application takes on a Connection to
>>>>>>> indicate a Close and also indicate that the Transport Services
>>>>>>> System should not attempt to deliver any outstanding data, and
>>>>>>> immediately drop the connection.
>>>>>>> Suggested:
>>>>>>> Abort: The action the application takes on a Connection to indicate
>>>>>>> a Close and also indicate that the Transport Services System
>>>>>>> should not attempt to deliver any outstanding data and should
>>>>>>> immediately drop the connection. -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Better, but I think this could be made clearer:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> NEW:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Abort: The action the application takes on a Connection
>>>>>>> to indicate that the Transport Services System
>>>>>>> should not attempt to deliver any outstanding data, and should
>>>>>>> immediately close and drop the connection
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Section 4.2: This sentence does not parse. Please
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> clarify "going through a single security and transport protocol,
>>>>>>> over IP; or, a multi-path transport protocol".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> A single stack can be simple (a single transport
>>>>>>> protocol instance over IP), or it can be complex (multiple
>>>>>>> application protocol streams going through a single security and
>>>>>>> transport protocol, over IP; or, a multi-path transport protocol
>>>>>>> over multiple transport sub-flows). -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Suggested rework:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A single stack can be simple (e.g. one application stream carried TCP 
>>>>>>> running over IP), or complex (e.g. multiple application streams carried 
>>>>>>> over a multipath transport protocol using multiple subflows over IP).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Section 4.2.3: What can lead to linkability - the
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> cached protocol state itself or the act of reusing it? If the
>>>>>>> suggested text (the act of reusing cached protocol state) is not
>>>>>>> correct, please provide clarifying text.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Original (previous text is included for context; also, we
>>>>>>> restructured the list):
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Possible reasons to isolate Connections using separate
>>>>>>> Connection Contexts include:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • Privacy concerns about re-using cached protocol state that can
>>>>>>> lead to linkability.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Suggested:
>>>>>>> Possible reasons to isolate Connections using separate
>>>>>>> Connection Contexts include privacy concerns regarding:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • reusing cached protocol state, as this can lead to 
>>>>>>> linkability.
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is good, thanks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Section 6: We changed "other another security 
>>>>>>> protocol
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> handshake that is" to "other security protocol handshakes that are".
>>>>>>> If this is incorrect, please clarify the text.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> For example, if an
>>>>>>> application provides a certificate to only be used as client
>>>>>>> authentication for outbound TLS and QUIC connections, the Transport
>>>>>>> Services System MUST NOT use this automatically in other contexts
>>>>>>> (such as server authentication for inbound connections, or in other
>>>>>>> another security protocol handshake that is not equivalent to TLS).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>> For example, if an
>>>>>>> application provides a certificate to only be used as client
>>>>>>> authentication for outbound TLS and QUIC connections, the Transport
>>>>>>> Services System MUST NOT use this automatically in other contexts
>>>>>>> (such as server authentication for inbound connections or in other
>>>>>>> security protocol handshakes that are not equivalent to TLS). -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> yep, thanks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] The 2008 version of [POSIX] is marked 
>>>>>>> "Superseded".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There is a 2017 revision (https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8277153)
>>>>>>> and a 2024 revision (https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10555529).
>>>>>>> Please let us know if you would like to update this reference to one
>>>>>>> of these revisions; if yes, please let us know which revision is
>>>>>>> appropriate for this document.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Original (double dash changed to single in order to avoid xml2rfc's
>>>>>>> "Double hyphen within comment" error):
>>>>>>> [POSIX] "IEEE Std. 1003.1-2008 Standard for Information Technology
>>>>>>> - Portable Operating System Interface (POSIX). Open
>>>>>>> group Technical Standard: Base Specifications, Issue 7",
>>>>>>> 2008. -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please update the reference, thanks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] RFC 5389 has been obsoleted by RFC 8489
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8489). As the citation in
>>>>>>> Section 4.1.4 appears to be general in nature, we updated this
>>>>>>> document to list and cite RFC 8489 instead, per companion document
>>>>>>> draft-ietf-taps-interface. Please let us know any objections.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> However, if the set of Local Endpoints includes
>>>>>>> server reflexive candidates, such as those provided by STUN
>>>>>>> (Session Traversal Utilities for NAT) [RFC5389], a Rendezvous
>>>>>>> action will race candidates in the style of the ICE (Interactive
>>>>>>> Connection Establishment) algorithm [RFC8445] to perform NAT
>>>>>>> binding discovery and initiate a peer-to-peer connection.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> [RFC5389] Rosenberg, J., Mahy, R., Matthews, P., and D. Wing,
>>>>>>> "Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN)", RFC 5389,
>>>>>>> DOI 10.17487/RFC5389, October 2008,
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5389 .
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>> However, if the set of Local Endpoints includes
>>>>>>> server-reflexive candidates, such as those provided by STUN
>>>>>>> (Session Traversal Utilities for NAT) [RFC8489], a Rendezvous
>>>>>>> action will race candidates in the style of the ICE (Interactive
>>>>>>> Connectivity Establishment) algorithm [RFC8445] to perform NAT
>>>>>>> binding discovery and initiate a peer-to-peer connection.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> [RFC8489] Petit-Huguenin, M., Salgueiro, G., Rosenberg, J., Wing,
>>>>>>> D., Mahy, R., and P. Matthews, "Session Traversal
>>>>>>> Utilities for NAT (STUN)", RFC 8489, DOI 10.17487/RFC8489,
>>>>>>> February 2020, https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8489 . -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please update the reference, thanks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion 
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> online Style Guide at
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language ,
>>>>>>> and let us know if any changes are needed. Updates of this nature
>>>>>>> typically result in more precise language, which is helpful for
>>>>>>> readers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In addition, please consider whether "tradition" should be updated
>>>>>>> for clarity (possibly "commonly used", "typical", or
>>>>>>> "long-established"). While the NIST website
>>>>>>> (https://www.nist.gov/nist-research-library/nist-technical-series-publications-author-instructions#table1)
>>>>>>> indicates that this term is potentially biased, it is also ambiguous.
>>>>>>> "Tradition" is a subjective term, as it is not the same for everyone. 
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The use of “traditional” here is meant to refer to the UNIX programming 
>>>>>>> tradition; I believe this is inclusive of all networking systems 
>>>>>>> programmers using UNIX systems or those systems compatible with and/or 
>>>>>>> inspired by them (and the insight, and indeed the entirety of the TAPS 
>>>>>>> work, is irrelevant to people who are not networking systems 
>>>>>>> prorgammers), so IMO this is fine to keep.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         • <!-- [rfced] The following terms were used inconsistently in 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> document. We chose to use the latter forms. Please let us know
>>>>>>> any objections.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Transport Feature / transport feature (in running text)
>>>>>>> (per usage elsewhere in this document, in the rest of this
>>>>>>> cluster, and in RFC 8303)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Transport Service API (1 instance in Cluster 508) /
>>>>>>> Transport Services API (per the rest of this document and the
>>>>>>> cluster)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Transport Service System (1 instance in Cluster 508) /
>>>>>>> Transport Services System (per the rest of this document and the
>>>>>>> cluster) -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> These are fine, thanks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-diff.html
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Diff of the XML:
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-xmldiff1.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tracking progress
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The details of the AUTH48 status of your document are here:
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9621
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please let us know if you have any questions.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you for your cooperation,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> RFC Editor
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> RFC9621 (draft-ietf-taps-arch-19)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Title : Architecture and Requirements for Transport Services
>>>>>>> Author(s) : T. Pauly, Ed., B. Trammell, Ed., A. Brunstrom, G. 
>>>>>>> Fairhurst, C. S. Perkins
>>>>>>> WG Chair(s) : Reese Enghardt, Aaron Falk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Area Director(s) : Zaheduzzaman Sarker, Francesca Palombini
>>>>>>> 
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