Hi Sandy and Eliot,

I just did what I should do.
Thank you very much for your consistent help.

Best regards,
Cathy
 
From: Sandy Ginoza
Date: 2024-12-03 03:03
To: Rfc Ise
CC: zhangcuiling; RFC Editor; 刘昱琨; lengfeng; zhaoqi; hezh; Alexis Rossi; 
auth48archive
Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9563 <draft-cuiling-dnsop-sm2-alg-15> for your 
review
All,
 
Thank you for your reviews!  Cathy, thank you for your help with the 
references!  We have received all of the needed approvals, so we will continue 
with the publication process shortly. 
 
RFC Editor/sg
 
 
> On Nov 29, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) 
> <rfc-...@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> 
> Approved.
> 
> On 27.11.2024 04:14, Sandy Ginoza wrote:
>> Hi Authors and Eliot,
>> 
>> Cathy, thank you for your efforts to get the references translated and 
>> posted.  We have updated the references.  Please see the revised files here:
>>    
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9563.xml
>> 
>>    
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9563.txt
>> 
>>    
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9563.pdf
>> 
>>    
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9563.html
>> 
>> 
>> Diffs showing the most recent updates only: 
>>    
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9563-lastdiff.html
>> 
>>    
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9563-lastrfcdiff.html
>>  (side by side) 
>> 
>> AUTH48 diff: 
>>    
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9563-auth48diff.html
>> 
>> 
>> Comprehensive diffs:
>>    
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9563-diff.html
>> 
>>    
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9563-rfcdiff.html
>>  (side by side) 
>> 
>> Authors, please review the files above and let us know if any additional 
>> updates are needed or if you approve the RFC for publication.
>> 
>> Eliot, please let us know when/if this document is ready for publication. 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> RFC Editor/sg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2024, at 4:41 AM, Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) 
>>> <rfc-...@rfc-editor.org>
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Cathy,
>>> 
>>> This looks pretty good.  RFC Editor, can you update the AUTH48 document to 
>>> include these URLs?
>>> 
>>> Eliot
>>> 
>>> On 18.11.2024 08:54, zhangcuiling wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Sandy and Eliot,
>>>> 
>>>> CSTC has uploaded the translated standards, and the links are as follows:
>>>> 
>>>> GMT-0003.1
>>>> SM2 Public Key Cryptographic Algorithms Based on Elliptic Curves Part 1: 
>>>> General
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.gmbz.org.cn/upload/2024-11-18/1731899501687024253.pdf
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> GMT-0003.2
>>>> SM2 Public Key Cryptographic Algorithms Based on Elliptic Curves Part 2: 
>>>> Digital Signature Algorithm
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.gmbz.org.cn/upload/2024-11-18/1731899583359013934.pdf
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> GMT-0004
>>>> SM3 Cryptographic Hash Algorithm
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.gmbz.org.cn/upload/2024-11-18/1731899426565012428.pdf
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> And [GBT-32918.1-2016], [GBT-32918.2-2016] and [GBT-32905-2016] could be 
>>>> removed from "9.1. Normative References" list.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks a lot for your patience.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Cathy
>>>>  
>>>> From: Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
>>>> Date: 2024-10-22 23:15
>>>> To: zhangcuiling; Sandy Ginoza
>>>> CC: rfc-editor; 刘昱琨; lengfeng; zhaoqi; hezh; Alexis Rossi; auth48archive
>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9563 <draft-cuiling-dnsop-sm2-alg-15> for 
>>>> your review
>>>> Thank you, Cathy.  We await your update.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Eliot
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22.10.2024 11:00, zhangcuiling wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Sandy and Eliot,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've checked with CSTC about the progress again.
>>>>> The translated standards need a final confirmation review, which probably 
>>>>> will be held in two weeks.
>>>>> The standards will be published on 
>>>>> http://gmbz.org.cn
>>>>>  shortly after the meeting.
>>>>> I'll submit the links as soon as possible.
>>>>> Sorry for the long wait and thanks for your patience.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cathy
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
>>>>> Date: 2024-10-22 14:34
>>>>> To: Sandy Ginoza
>>>>> CC: zhangcuiling; RFC Editor; 刘昱琨; lengfeng; zhaoqi; hezh; Alexis Rossi; 
>>>>> auth48archive
>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9563 <draft-cuiling-dnsop-sm2-alg-15> for 
>>>>> your review
>>>>> Hi Sandy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am waiting for those references as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eliot
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 22.10.2024 01:13, Sandy Ginoza wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Eliot and Cathy,
>>>>>> We’re checking the status of this document.  Are any updates required?  
>>>>>> Cathy, please let us know when and where the referenced translations are 
>>>>>> available. 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> RFC Editor/sg
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2024, at 4:05 AM, Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot 
>>>>>>> Lear) <rfc-...@rfc-editor.org>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> Ok.  Thank you, Cathy.
>>>>>>> Sandy, I intend to send a note to SAAG about this draft on Monday.  
>>>>>>> Please HOLD for publication for now but I expect to sign off by later 
>>>>>>> next week.
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Eliot
>>>>>>> On 20.09.2024 12:47, zhangcuiling wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Sandy,
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your work.
>>>>>>>> And no objection to the suggestions.
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Cathy
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> From: Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
>>>>>>>> Date: 2024-09-20 15:28
>>>>>>>> To: Sandy Ginoza; zhangcuiling
>>>>>>>> CC: RFC Editor; 刘昱琨; lengfeng; zhaoqi; hezh; Alexis Rossi; 
>>>>>>>> auth48archive
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9563 <draft-cuiling-dnsop-sm2-alg-15> 
>>>>>>>> for your review
>>>>>>>> Sandy,
>>>>>>>> Thank you.  Cathy, please respond with your concurrence or proposed 
>>>>>>>> edits.
>>>>>>>> Eliot
>>>>>>>> On 19.09.2024 23:28, Sandy Ginoza wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> We have updated the document as described.  However, we have a couple 
>>>>>>>>> of followup questions. 
>>>>>>>>> 1) Use of “as well as” makes it sound as though the national 
>>>>>>>>> standards for China and the ISO/IEC standards are different.  We 
>>>>>>>>> think the intent is to say that this specification uses SM 
>>>>>>>>> cryptographic algorithms, which are national standards for China and 
>>>>>>>>> are used in ISO/IEC standards.  If this is correct, please consider 
>>>>>>>>> the following update: 
>>>>>>>>> Current: 
>>>>>>>>>    It makes use of cryptographic algorithms that
>>>>>>>>>    are national standards for China, as well as ISO/IEC standards 
>>>>>>>>> (ISO/
>>>>>>>>>    IEC 14888:3-2018 [ISO-IEC14888-3_2018] and ISO/IEC 10118:3-2018
>>>>>>>>>    [ISO-IEC10118-3_2018]).
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>>    It makes use of SM cryptographic algorithms, which
>>>>>>>>>    are national standards for China and are used in ISO/IEC standards 
>>>>>>>>>    (ISO/IEC 14888:3-2018 [ISO-IEC14888-3_2018] and ISO/IEC 
>>>>>>>>> 10118:3-2018
>>>>>>>>>    [ISO-IEC10118-3_2018]).
>>>>>>>>> 2) With the addition of the following text, we have included an 
>>>>>>>>> informative reference to RFC 6840.  Please let us know if it should 
>>>>>>>>> be normative instead. 
>>>>>>>>>    Many implementations may not support SM2 signatures and SM3 
>>>>>>>>> digests.
>>>>>>>>>    Section 5.2 of [RFC6840] specifies handling of answers in such 
>>>>>>>>> cases.
>>>>>>>>> Diffs of the recent updates only: 
>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9563-lastdiff.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9563-lastrfcdiff.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Comprehensive diffs: 
>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9563-diff.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9563-rfcdiff.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> AUTH48 diff: 
>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9563-auth48diff.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/sg
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2024, at 2:21 AM, zhangcuiling <zhangcuil...@cnnic.cn>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Eliot,
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your reminding.
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sandy,
>>>>>>>>>> Please kindly add two new paragraphs to Introduction section. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Many implementations may not support SM2 signatures and SM3 
>>>>>>>>>>> digests.  RFC 6840 Section 5.2 specifies handling of answers in 
>>>>>>>>>>> such cases.
>>>>>>>>>>> Caution: This specification is not a standard and does not have 
>>>>>>>>>>> IETF community consensus. It makes use of cryptographic algorithms 
>>>>>>>>>>> that are national standards for China, as well as ISO/IEC standards 
>>>>>>>>>>> (ISO/IEC 14888:3-2018 and ISO/IEC 10118:3-2018). Neither the IETF 
>>>>>>>>>>> nor the IRTF has analyzed that algorithm for suitability for any 
>>>>>>>>>>> given application, and it may contain either intended or unintended 
>>>>>>>>>>> weaknesses.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Cathy
>>>>>>>>>> From: Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
>>>>>>>>>> Date: 2024-09-11 18:01
>>>>>>>>>> To: zhangcuiling; Sandy Ginoza
>>>>>>>>>> CC: rfc-editor; 刘昱琨; lengfeng; zhaoqi; hezh; Alexis Rossi; 
>>>>>>>>>> auth48archive
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9563 <draft-cuiling-dnsop-sm2-alg-15> 
>>>>>>>>>> for your review
>>>>>>>>>> Actually, Cathy, if we can ask for the assistance of the RFC Editor, 
>>>>>>>>>> they can make the changes from here.  Just tell them what you want.
>>>>>>>>>> On 11.09.2024 11:01, zhangcuiling wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Eliot,
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your prompt reply.
>>>>>>>>>>> I would make the following two modifications in the next version of 
>>>>>>>>>>> the draft.
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Cathy
>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 2024-09-11 15:58
>>>>>>>>>>> To: zhangcuiling; Sandy Ginoza
>>>>>>>>>>> CC: rfc-editor; 刘昱琨; lengfeng; zhaoqi; hezh; Alexis Rossi; 
>>>>>>>>>>> auth48archive
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9563 
>>>>>>>>>>> <draft-cuiling-dnsop-sm2-alg-15> for your review
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Cathy,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11.09.2024 08:51, zhangcuiling wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Eliot and Sandy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the new comment:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Many implementations may not support SM2 signatures and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> digests.  RFC 6840 Section 5.2 specifies handling of answers in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> such cases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The example is pretty clear and it's OK to add it to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> document. One small change:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Many implementations may not support SM2 signatures and SM3 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> digests.  RFC 6840 Section 5.2 specifies handling of answers in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> such cases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure about the location of this part, because I just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> found RFC 9558 has similar description in section 6 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Implementation Considerations, not in section 1 Introduction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that's right.  I would suggest that it's not necessary to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> create a new section for two sentences, but if you want to, you 
>>>>>>>>>>>> can.  Your call.  What is important is that implementers 
>>>>>>>>>>>> understand what the expected behavior will be from implementations 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that do not understand SM2/SM3.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll add these sentences to the introduction section.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the 'caution' paragragh:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of this statement is OK for us, except one detail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Although ShangMi (SM) cryptographic algorithms haven't been 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> analyzed by the IETF and the IRTF, SM2 and SM3 algorithms have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been added to ISO/IEC standards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is it possible to remove the third sentence, to avoid the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> misunderstanding that these algorithms are just national 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> standards instead of international standards?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or is it possible to change the second sentence to:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   It makes use of cryptographic algorithms that are national 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> standards for China, as well as ISO/IEC standards (ISO/IEC 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14888:3-2018 and ISO/IEC 10118:3-2018).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry, but that's not possible.  This came about as an interim 
>>>>>>>>>>>> means to address IETF and IAB concerns about national 
>>>>>>>>>>>> cryptography.  However, it is fine to add a sentence above to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> refer to the ISO standard.  FWIW, your document will probably be 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the last crypto I publish for a good period of time, while the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> IETF tries to figure out what the long term approach should be.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> And the following paragragh, too.
>>>>>>>>>>> Caution: This specification is not a standard and does not have 
>>>>>>>>>>> IETF community consensus. It makes use of cryptographic algorithms 
>>>>>>>>>>> that are national standards for China, as well as ISO/IEC standards 
>>>>>>>>>>> (ISO/IEC 14888:3-2018 and ISO/IEC 10118:3-2018). Neither the IETF 
>>>>>>>>>>> nor the IRTF has analyzed that algorithm for suitability for any 
>>>>>>>>>>> given application, and it may contain either intended or unintended 
>>>>>>>>>>> weaknesses.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Eliot
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
 
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