On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Stephen Milner <smil...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Chris Negus <cne...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Red Hat has been phasing out support for manually setting up vanilla 
>> Kubernetes on RHEL and RHEL Atomic. While there are still procedures for 
>> setting up Kubernetes in Fedora in the Kubernetes.io documentation, the 
>> Kubernetes project is considering dropping them because they have become 
>> outdated:
>>
>> https://github.com/kubernetes/website/issues/7301
>> https://github.com/kubernetes/website/issues/7302
>>
>> In my mind, this means that someone trying out vanilla Kubernetes will start 
>> with some OS outside of the Fedora/RHEL/CentOS ecosystem. My question is, is 
>> it okay to let this content die? Or should we encourage some way to still 
>> manually use Kubernetes on Fedora (Atomic or not)?
>>
>> -------------
>> Chris Negus
>> Red Hat Principal Technical Writer
>> RHCA, RHCI, RHCX, RHCE
>> Author of the Linux Bible, 9th Edition
>> http://amzn.to/1IBA7NF
>
> Jason Brooks has created a number of system containers for folks to
> use (source in https://github.com/projectatomic/atomic-system-containers/).
> He has some information in a blog post at:
>
>     
> https://www.projectatomic.io/blog/2017/11/migrating-kubernetes-on-fedora-atomic-host-27/
>
> I think having the content updated to point to or be based on Jason's
> instructions would be a good replacement.

Well actually... the main way I've used these system containers is
with the ansible scripts at:
https://github.com/kubernetes/contrib/tree/master/ansible but those
have been deprecated.

I think we should:

* drop the manual instructions from the site
* tell people who want manual to go read "kubernetes the hard way"
* focus on kubeadm for kubernetes on atomic (see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jasonbrooks/QA/AtomicTests/Install_Kubeadm
and 
https://github.com/projectatomic/atomic-system-containers/tree/master/kubeadm)
* point to openshift-ansible for people who want a more complicated
configuration (https://github.com/openshift/openshift-ansible)

If you'd like to know *all* my thoughts on the matter, I gave a talk
on this subject at Flock: https://youtu.be/Y703n0emWUg

>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Steve Milner
>
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>

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