hey,folks.. U guys always cum up with the same thread of 90's rahman and 
present one.. I totally agree with Aj on this.. Man that is what keeps rahman 
from all other MD's.,he has evolved from being a synth based composer to a 
composer needed/most adored by all ace filmmaker..

On Mon Aug 30th, 2010 7:23 PM IST AJ wrote:

>"yes i miss that A R RAHMAN. but the problem is raavan d6 JA didnt had the 
>magic of that standard of music."
>
>I was expecting this same exact response from you, Taimur.  You're very 
>predictable.  What you said is only your opinion.  Most people in this group 
>and elsewhere would not agree with you about that.
>
>I like the ARR today just as much as ARR of yesterday.  What I wrote were just 
>observations of trends, not a judgment of what I like more or what ARR has 
>lost over the years.  ARR has changed....and to me, that's it.  What I miss 
>from ARR today is compensated by what ARR didn't emphasize before but now is 
>emphasizing as a more mature and seasoned composer....like symphonic 
>refinement, greater genre diversity, and more varied global styles and 
>textures.  He has expanded his repertoire and you don't hear anyone calling 
>him repetitive anymore, a label that stuck with him by critics back in the 
>1990s.  I like today's ARR just as much as the ARR of yesterday.  Maybe you 
>don't, but many people here in this group and elsewhere feel that ARR has 
>changed and grown, matured as a composer, emphasizing more global music.  And 
>the Indian ARR is very much alive....Khwaja Mere Khwaja, Man Mohanna, Maula 
>Maula, Khili Re, Ranjha Ranjha, Tere Bina, Aye Hairathe Aashiqui,
 Jashne Bahaar..etc. etc.  
>
>I made a compilation CD of my favorites from ARR and Mani Ratnam, putting old 
>and new songs side by side and listening to all them together.  I get the same 
>number of goosebumps when I hear Tu Hi Re or E Ajnabi as I do when I hear 
>Behene De or Ranjha Ranjha or Tere Bina.  Which song one likes better is only 
>a matter of opinion, not truth.  For me, the feelings I get when I listen to 
>old ARR are matched by the feelings I get when I listen to new ARR.  I just go 
>with the flow and I keep nostalgia in check.
>
>You have very little insight into how nostalgia plays a role into judging 
>music from the past.
>
>--- In [email protected], Taimur Nadeem <taimur.nad...@...> wrote:
>>
>> AJ you hit the bulls eye the "INDIAN A R RAHMAN" , the indian flavour in 
>> contemporary music no matter what genre A R RAHMAN took , thats what used 
>> to be in SIR'S music. that made him unique, just one in the world. that made 
>> him a musical wizard , combining the beauty of indian music with modern 
>> themes.
>>  
>>  yes i miss that A R RAHMAN. but the problem is raavan d6 JA didnt had the 
>> magic of that standard of music. 
>>  
>> today A R RAHMAN's muisc is mixing up with west , uniqueness lacking. take 
>> DILse , saaathiya , hum se hai muqabla, jeans ,thiruda thiruda  
>> contemporary indian music at its peak . the music of these albums is 
>> completely unique . even take lagaan meenaxi  mangal panday classic these 
>> three albums are.  take Maa tijhe salam wow  wow , what contemporary 
>> masterpiece it is. 
>>  
>> when A  R RAHMAN used to sit in small dark studio in chennai , he produced 
>> world class music, now that he has studio's in every corner of the world , 
>> he is famous in every corner of the world , he has lost universality in his 
>> music, i feel . A R RAHMAN will surely return back to his indian magic one 
>> day. 
>>  
>> and tell you first time i have affirmed your mail WOW.
>>  
>> REGARDS,
>>  
>> taimur
>> 
>> --- On Mon, 8/30/10, AJ <purev...@...> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> From: AJ <purev...@...>
>> Subject: [arr] Roja..........still sounds amazing........and my take on 
>> general trends....
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 2:34 AM
>> 
>> 
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Can't believe it.......heard Roja today after ages and the sounds are still 
>> so clean, fresh, and breezy...not sounding that outdated at all, despite it 
>> being 18 years old. Amazing compositions for ARR's debut......melodious, 
>> sweet, earthy, straight to the heart. 
>> 
>> If there was one thing that I liked about ARR of the 90s that I don't hear 
>> much of these days is that ARR's songs back then had a lot more breathing 
>> room.......there was more space in the songs and the song arrangements were 
>> not as dense as they are today. The songs just breathed easier back then it 
>> seems, if I were to make a very broad and general comparison to today's 
>> songs. ARR also used minimal loops and more spacious arrangements, so you 
>> could hear more of "silence" in the slower compositions. "Tu Hi Re" is a 
>> great example of that. I hope you understand what I mean. Again, these are 
>> just observations of mine. I like his past songs equally to his current 
>> songs in general, but there are some broad differences, signifying Rahman's 
>> evolution as an artist and adding and subtracting elements of his 
>> compositional style and sound over time. I am just bowled over how NONE of 
>> his songs from the 1990s sound outdated whatsoever even today. That says 
>> volumes.
>> 
>> One more thing......songs in those days...1990s to early 2000s in general 
>> were more "Indian" sounding....not just with ARR, but with other MDs too. 
>> The trend in bollywood and perhaps other industries too is to have more 
>> Western and global musical styles in film music with gradual shifting away 
>> from the ethnic Indian flavor of songs.....not completely, but the trend is 
>> there. ARR too used to have more "ethnic Indian" sounding albums back then, 
>> even for contemporary films like Saathiya, Taal, Dil Se that were not period 
>> films. Later, the "Ethnic Indian" sound would be confined mostly to period 
>> film scores or situational numbers, but with some exceptions. Delhi 6, 
>> Raavan, and Jodha Akbar are the 3 most Indian sounding albums recently and 
>> look how beautifully all 3 music albums were received and raved about. I 
>> think a lot of people are missing more of the "Indian" Rahman. Rahman's 
>> music over time has become more "international" and less "Indian" as a
 general
>>  trend....again with exceptions here and there.
>>
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