Give me a chance of writing about ethics. Once a person went to a shop to purchased for Rs.50 and then paid him Rs 100. The shopkeeper returned 70 by mistake as a remainder. The person left the shop. It was late by when the shopkeeper realized his mistake. After a couple of days the same person went to the same shop and again purchased stuff worth Rs 50. Again he paid 100. This time the shopkeep recognized the person and returned Rs 30. Seeing the less amount the person questions the shopkeeper why is he returning Rs 20 less and it wasn't ethical. For which the shopkeeper reminded him of the incident couple of days back where he took Rs 20 more and where was his ethics then. The person was too quick to respond saying his ethics had allowed him to forgive the mistake of the shopkeeper once. But not twice of repeating the same mistake.
Now you decide who is more ethical and I am sure its very much debatable. And both are right. So When AR is renting his studio and if he makes the MD sign an agreement not to use other person's work.. it nay be good ideally but whats wrong if somebody says he was inspired of another work. We too try to imitate and follow other. Memento might have also used some other story based upon Short term memory loss and vengeance. Think about Titanic itself or even the Da Vinci code.. In the former it was the ship sinking story told in its own masala and the later uses the search for Holy Grail in its own way. Da Vinci code story was claimed as a plagarism of "holy Blood Holy Grail". But the laws gave a clean chit. Now does it mean Laws are without ethics? If yes, then why are we made to follow? Known it has flaws but these flaws sometimes create much better work. It gives an opportunity for individual to sometimes use and then recreate by adding contributions. If every plagiarism was to be stopped then the first and the foremost thing that should be stopped is the university exams we make use of the content in a book, read, memorize and then write it as answers in the exam. Isn't it plagiarism? Was the answers any time our/your own? I studies in the university which has patterns of open book exams. Its the biggest plagiarism. How about ethics here? --- In [email protected], "pradeepananth" <pradeepana...@...> wrote: > > To clarify, I am not ethics police here and not accusing ARR of > anything. Just trying to get a sense for what his (and everyone's) > perspective on this is. > > I think Vivek put it really beautifully in terms of distinguishing > between laws and morals. This is really about what moral standards > does ARR subscribe to and whether there is an opportunity here for him > to hold himself and the rest of the industry to higher standards. > > Other things to consider: > > Whether Ghajini and Memento or similar or not is to be decided based > on international law and I have a strong feeling that intellectual > property experts will certainly rule this as a case of plagiarism. > > As for the related question around what happens if ARR rents his > studio out to MDs who plagiarize, its probably a good idea that ARR > writes in contracts with those MDs that indemnify him in case they are > sued over copyright infringement laws. > > As for the rice/farmer issue, the people who refuse to drink Starbucks > coffee or wear Nike shoes because of alleged violation of fair trade > laws or labor laws will certainly not want to consume the rice from > the farmer who beats up his wife. They will want to get it from more > 'ethically appropriate' sources. > > > --- In [email protected], "Pradeepan R" > <pradeepanisonline@> wrote: > > > > This is completely ridiculous.If I tell you that the Rice that you > eat, is > > coming from a piece of land, owned by a farmer who beats up his Wife.... > > would you stop eating ?? > > Would you be willing to make an effort to find out ??!!! > > we all know for a fact that we pollute the earth by driving...isn't that > > unethical towards our future generation ? > > > > :)) lets not bring ARR into unnecessary stuff. > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 5:55 PM, vivek <iiivivekoberoiiii@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, ARR should not have involved with the project if he was aware > > > that prior permission was not taken for remaking the movie. > > > > > > Yes, ARR should not rent out his studio to MDs who are blatantly and > > > intentionally guilty of infringing on copyrights of other artists - > > > international or domestic. > > > > > > well gomzy, going by your logic, pakistan can house thousands of > > > terrorist camps and get away with it by just saying "oh we just gave > > > them a place to live and work. We are not responsible for what they > > > do". Do you think it is acceptable? > > > > > > A guy distributing ghajini mp3s would say "I am just giving but I am > > > not asking anyone to take it. So, I am morally upright and did no > > > wrong". The other guy would say, "I am just taking because he is > > > giving otherwise I would have bought the CD. So, I am pure.. you see, > > > morals are subjective". oh yeah right! > > > > > > technically speaking, ARR might not have broken any law. but... > > > > > > laws exist for enforcement. morals exist for enlightenment. > > > laws have to be obeyed. morals have to be practiced. > > > > > > Just because we love ARR, the man and his music, it should not blind > > > our own judgement. > > > > > > --- In [email protected] <arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > "Gomzy" <gomtesh.upadhye@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Now lets use your logic for something better. > > > > > > > > ARR's studio is given out on rent basis to various MDs. I wouldnt > > > wanna name > > > > the MDs who use the studio. > > > > Now are we going to sue or question ARRs ethics if these MDs copy > > > or rip off > > > > some guys music? (they are btw) > > > > > > > > Please stop catching anything related to ARR in every manner > > > possible and > > > > holding that against him. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:13 AM, ramakrisha laxmana subramanian > > > siva gopala > > > > acharya iyer .aiyooo amma idli wada dosa sambar chatni . < > > > > sriramiyer15@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What has AR got to do with it? His work is completely original, > > > the > > > > > basic story of GHAJINI is SURE to have been inspired from the > > > H'wood > > > > > flick, but the 'masala' is completely by the writer/director. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] > <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com><arrahmanfans% > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > > > > "pradeepananth" > > > > > <pradeepananth@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > So Ghajini is out and looks like its all set to break all box > > > office > > > > > > records. Aamir, the producers and everyone involved is going to > > > rake > > > > > > in a lot of moolah. > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I know, Murugadoss & Co. did not quite pay Christopher > > > > > > Nolan, his brother Jonathan Nolan(original story) or the > > > producers > > > > > of > > > > > > Memento for the rights of the movie. Maybe the tamil ghajini > > > didn't > > > > > > quite hit their radar but the Hindi one because of its high- > > > profile > > > > > > nature will probably do and they might come after Murugadoss & > > > co. > > > > > > > > > > > > In any case, I am disgusted that these guys didn't quite go and > > > > > > acquire the rights first from the original > > > writer/director/producers > > > > > > before ripping it off. If they don't have any qualms ripping off > > > > > > others' "intellectual property", why should they expect their > > > > > audience > > > > > > to not go for pirated DVDs and VCDs of their movie? Why do they > > > > > appeal > > > > > > to them to not watch through 'illegal sources' when what they > > > are > > > > > > doing is by no means "legal"? (I am no lawyer but I am pretty > > > sure > > > > > > that Ghajini will be deemed a case of plagiarism under most > > > > > > intellectual property laws) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Question to ARR is even though he is not directly ripping off > > > the > > > > > > story, he is certainly 'associated' with the movie and I wonder > > > if > > > > > he > > > > > > ought to have put a foot down and said that he would not want > > > to be > > > > > > associated with a movie where the intellectual property rights > > > of > > > > > > another creative artist are being violated. After all ARR > > > doesn't > > > > > > appreciate people downloading his music through illegal sources > > > and > > > > > > not paying for it. He knows how much its hurts an artiste. > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks with access to ARR - if you could get his stance on this > > > > > issue, > > > > > > that would be awesome. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > -pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Pradeepan. > > > > "All you need to do is, decide what to do with the time that is > given to you > > !" > > >
