Thanks Rawat for putting your input. One cant agree with other's every point of view. Someone read it and agreed on most of the points with me. Thanks :)
--- In [email protected], V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Beautiful review, Rivjot. > > On 11/23/2008 11:35 AM India Time, _rivjot_ wrote: > > > So I went to watch 8-11 PM show, for some reason I messed up. We > > thought show is gonna start at 7:10 PM. So we hurried up and went to > > multiplex, reached at 7:10. To our surprise there was a HUGE line up. > > We were do damn disappointed that we are going to miss first 20-25 > > min, but then to our surprise we were half an hour early :P > > Theater got house full before the movie started, and few of the guys > > entered the theater and then they brought the management inside to get > > them few seats but unfortunately they had to go back. > > :-) This vs all that they are saying about movie being a flop. In the > FDFS that I went to, the hall was some 90% full, several groups of > school going boys in their uniform with school bags on their back, > bunked the classes to see it. > > > > > Ok, now about the movie. First quarter focuses on Devan (Salman) and > > Anushka (Kat) love story and how Kat's father (Boman Irani) hates > > Devan. Then Devan has to go to London to his brothers as his dad > > passes away. > > OK. but you this sentence conveys that he went as a duty of sorts. It > doesn't really convey that he went just to lay a claim on the property, > nothing else. > > > Then it is all about 3 brothers, their love and hate > > relationship. Kat comes and goes for few minutes in second half. > > `Very simple story, family story' yes that is true. To be honest, > > there is not one point in movie (except like 20-25 min) where u feel > > like "Oh!! What is gonna happen now??" There is not much which keeps > > you stay bounded to your seat, but at the same time you never feel > > bored or anything, you never look at your watch to see how long it has > > been. > > Rightly said. And that is saying something about the movies being made > mowadays. > > Even in Dostana, I looked at my watch some times when I was getting > bored in Abhi and then John and then Bobby giving princely treats to > Priyanka one by one. That appeared so repetitive and thus boring, and > had no direct bearing on the basic theme of the film. > > In Yuvvraaj, I never looked at my watch even once. It was no Karz to > keep me in suspense but it was "a decent enjoyable movie" for me too. > > A decent enjoyable movie for time pass. Dont want to reveal much > > about scene details.. so yea > > > > Acting movie focuses on Salman, but who steals the show? Yes it is > > Anil Kapoor. Damn!! Ghai been working with him from more than 20 years > > (Meri Jang 1985) and he is Ghai's laadla so he knew how to extract > > the best out of him. He suffers from William's syndrome disease, and o > > boy! What acting he did. Simply astonishing. There are a lot of > > "awwww" scene and lot of scene which can make your eyes wet. > > um um um, thoda zyada ho gaya, yaar. :-) Anyway, to each his own. I mean > I loved this movie primarily because it handled romantic and emotional > scene so well and maturedly "without" being a tear-jerker. > > > Again, I > > don't want to describe which scene gets you emotional, but second half > > is totally stolen by Anil. Salman did REALLY GOOD acting; > > Yes! Compared to Salman's usual murgi-chor level of Pyaar Kiya to Darna > Kya, he has excelled himself in this movie. People should just keep his > role in mind. Maybe the cunningness that was part and parcel of the role > makes people feel disliking Salman himself. I think If someone disliked > Salman in this film, that is all the more reason to say that Salman > performed his loaded role so well. He is no goody-goody-cutie-softy > Shahid Kapoor in this film. > > > will > > probably get nominated for best actor, > > Hmm. Well. :-) but, yeah, only if they take into consideration Salman's > usual level. > > > but there are still 2 biggies > > to come RNBDJ and Ghajini, Aamir or SRK will probably bag that award. > > > > Zayed's acting is so so..at few instance you feel like o boy! How did > > he pull this off and at few points you are like.. ok :/ O ya, girl who > > played Zayed's girlfriend, she is damn hot. Zayed and her are shown > > lip locking and there is bedroom scene with her as well. > > Actually, I personally found that those scenes were so "sudden" and > fitted on demand, sort of, that there was no kick left for me in those > scenes also. Seems I am old school. > > > Kat's acting > > i found to be decent. At least better than her other movies in which > > she is there to show pretty face. In this movie, not only she looked > > gorgeous (out of all her movies so far, she looks most beautiful in > > this one), she also did justice with her character. > > Rightly said. > > > > > Song sequence > > > > Tu Meri Dost Hai (Considering how melodious song is, this one had the > > weakest choreography.. they showed Sallu and Kat flying in air) > > I think it is strategically wrong to show a song in first 15 minutes of > a film. Viewer goes to theater with an open mind to understand the film > and for first 10-20 minutes, he accepts the shown things as gospel > truth, a premise, that he doesn't question, and then he gets a grasp of > the story and sees rest of the film analytically criticizing it. Thus, > showing a long song in those 20 minutes wastes the opportunity and makes > the viewer close his mind and he immediately starts analyzing then > onwards. I think the Boman-Salman tussle and Salman's family equations > should have been given even hints about in first 20 minutes. > > Anyway. Different concepts. > > > Shano Shano Zayed's entry (choreography was simply amazing) > > Mastam Mastam .. at the end of the Mastam, there is interval > > Tu Muskura & Manmohini (together) gives Goosebumps; Tu Muskura is > > short, just 1 paragraph > > "Tu Muskura is short". Is it? Well, my memory is not so photographic. > Would have to see the CD to get a better grasp of songs. > > > Manmohini follows right after Tu Muskura, and its shorter than CD version > > The remaining part of the Manmohini, I somehow think, were shown in the > closing credits. But yeah, it was such a short song and Ghai should have > included it in full. > > btw, I would like to mention a scene from the Pakistani film by Shoeb > Mansoor Khuda Kay Liye that I recently saw. > > In it, the Pakistani guy goes to US to learn music and in the first day, > every new student is supposed to give a presentation of his music/ > singing/ instrument skills. > > Others give their solo presentations and people listen and like them, > but when this guy starts with pure classical "neer bharan kaise jaaoon", > it captivates all those foreigners from different countries so much that > every person picks up his instruments and spontaneously breaks into > playing it to match with the song. > > It was such a lovely scene, so natural. I felt so proud of our classical > heritage. > > I think Ghai missed out in that he should have shown Anil in that way. > Ghai did went to show like that, but couldn't. That intensity of Khuda > Kay Liye didn't come in manmohini scene, even though the song was > equally great. > > > Zindagi (in 2 parts) situational song, movie goes thru as they show > > this song > > Dil Ka Rishta (climax) acting is mind blowing > > I think the end of the song was quite of oddly visualized. > > (Spoiler alert) > > Salman takes Anil Kapoor to hospital, Zayed goes after the crooks. So, > the lead singer and other main voices were no more on stage, still > everybody continues the song, it reaches a crescendo, and stops. > > It appears very odd to me. Not to speak of others, how could Katrina > continues playing the cello on stage and how could the organizer of the > even have ignored the deterioration in the condition of Anil Kapoor, and > continued the show when a person was dying. > > And, there was no real reason as such to show it like that. Anil could > have started suffering at the end of the song at the standing ovation, etc. > > Ghai still have to get more finesse. > > > > > I saw few people's comments like songs are put in random order and > > have no relevance to the story. That is so not true. Songs go hand in > > hand with the movie > > Actually, I thought several songs are alike. Mastam and Shano could have > been a long single song in two part or maybe in continuation. Salman is > everywhere, of course he is the hero, still Zayed could have been given > a solo, Anil could have been given a solo sort of. Kat could also have > got a lead song. > > Anyway. Ghai put his money on Salman. Well. > > > and are very well put together and very well > > choreographed and picturized. Money is spent on sets blindly... > > Rightly said. > > And, the best part is that money shows in a positive way on the sets and > arrangement. It nowhere looked cheap. > > For example, in Golman Returns' Tha Tha Karte, this loud public song > with all that fire and destruction with 1000s of people appears so > sudden in a family film of half a dozen characters, that it pinches and > looks unnatural. > > Even in JA, which was supposed to have emperorly grandeur that somehow > remained missing making it a personal story of the duo, Azeemoshaan > popped up out of the blue with all that lavish things that appeared > cheap and showy. > > But, in Yuvvraaj, everything remained consistent. Money didn't look > cheaply spent or wasted for show-off of luxurious effects. It shows > grandeur in the right sense appearing so natural. > > That is quite an achievement of Ghai. > > > > > Music (don't worry I wont write pages and pages praising the music) / > > background score - > > > > Short Alaap at the beginning of the movie > > `Shut Up sa re ga ma' during Anil's entry, showing that he is such a > > genius classical singer than he can pick any word and sing classical > > Background music when Anil plays with ball with his friends (Bala etc) > > Background music at Boman's first party (in which Devan is insulted) > > Tu Muskura cello plays in background at so many instances > > Dil Ka Rishta instrumental followed by `Happy Bday Gaynesh' 4-5 min > > instrumental (that should have been on CD) > > Oh also, throughout the movie Anil has this little instrument which he > > keeps playing, it sounds soo nice.. don't know what is name of that > > instrument > > I would also like to know its name. > > > Shano Shano is slightly different from CD version they focus on > > more on "Tuuu" .. and there is one additional line .. it starts like > > "Tu Tu Tu Atke Atke Kinne Latke De Ke Bulae Tu Tu " > > Then another line, then > > "Andar Anadar Beech Samundar Dubki Khae Tu Tu Tu.. Shano Shano" > > Hmm, never noticed it. Thanks for mentioning. > > > Choreography of this song is so amazing, I found this song to be > > ordinary before going to the movie, but i am so loving it now. > > Melody of all the songs at the end/credits (just like Om Shanti Om) > > pretty good.. Rahman is also shown in black suit for 3-4 seconds: D > > (this could have also been on CD) > > hope someone posts pics of ARR's appearance in the movie. He appears so > much at ease. > > > > > Honestly, music is so grand.. and plays a huge part of the movie. > > Seems like Ghai got another hit in his bag with Rahman's help (Just > > like Taal). > > > > During one of the interview, Anil mentioned that singing or his > > picutrization on classical singing was the most challenging part and i > > did notice that. They move the camera around few times when he sings > > that sargam.. > > Meaning what? Camera does move all over the film. > > > > > In short, I loved the movie. If I compare, this is Ghai's best work > > after Pardes (1997). > > Rightly said. I would add that even in Pardes, Ghai had slipped after > Mahima had gone to his fiancee's house. The end was stupid. > > > Yes, I like the movie more than Taal. There were > > also people who didn't like it. Guy sitting in row behind us, was > > making comments like `movie is shit' during interval and when the > > movie ended, he was like I want my money back.. I felt like punching > > him on the face. But majority of people who were coming out of theatre > > said they liked it. > > > You can enjoy this movie only in theater, as > > music, set, location, cinematography etc everything is so grand and > > beautiful > > Rightly said. That is the trick. That is the essence. The grandeur of > the film can't be experienced on Cd/ DVD/ TV. > > Go see it in hall, a good hall, a multiplex. > > > Movie definitely deserves some awards, especially for > > > > Best supporting Actor Anil Kapoor (if he doesn't win this, i will be > > so disappointed) > > Best music director AR Rahman (Background score no, I think JA had > > better BGM) > > Best lyricist Gulzar > > um, um. I would say that this is one of Gulzar's less good work. > > > best Female playback singer - Alka Yagnik (Tu Muskura) > > Best choreography Shamik Davar or Ahmed Khan > > Best cinematography Kabir Lal > > > > Rating 7.5/10 > > Thanks. > -- > Rawat >
