Hahaha.. You are really a funny person First of all, learn how to use paragraph when you are writing long It's kindoff mixed-up,man You hope everyone will stop talking about musical notes, raaga or something else? Why? Are you afraid that these terms will defeat your arguments Or never even heard of them before?
You are talking about similarity in the tunes and don't want to talk about raaga and musical notes? Do you know what builds the tunes .Can you compose tunes without musical notes and Raaga? Or at least give me an example of a song without these terms The attachment of the midi files and musical notes of the songs is a solid proof that A.R Rahman didn't copy Perhaps you are terrified with it.. You just don't learn do you? No one here is trying to force themselves and find excuses.. Why on earth we should do that, man? We had great healthy and motivating discussion and arguments here all this while and you come here from nowhere and saying that we are not open-minded.. Look who's talking If we didn't provide any proof, then you can say that we are closed- minded but we have everything Perhaps you don't have any point to argue anymore but still don't want to give up to show your pride or something Try to listen to the midi and the real song again and again If you still found that the tunes are VERY SIMILAR as you have claimed, then you have to do something with your ears Am sure that there are many ear specialists at South Africa Actually I doubt that you are really from South Africa for some reason What's your name by the way? Just out of curiosity, where do you get original ARR audio cassettes and CDs? You can share anything about ARR in this group but what you did was not sharing but challenging If you have any doubt, you can ask a question but you straight away came up with a hasty statement saying that ARR copies You have came to a conclusion by yourself without any argument and now you feel that you can't share your opinion You said that we shouldn't say anything that ARR does is correct and once again I'm asking you what did he do wrong? I doubt you have implied meaning there We talk and discuss about Raaga and music not to show off but to share with the music lovers.. If you took it wrong, I can't help it . No one here said that he/she's the greatest fan of A.R Rahman.. I just don't understand why you are taking everything in a very negative and evil way I guess you might have some pressure in your life and trying to pour off everything using this matter . Relax, man.. Am sure everything will turn out fine if you can manage yourself Once again I would like to tell you that we are not wrong and not giving any excuses or forcing ourselves.. We don't have to, man . Are trying to say that you are doing that and trying to blame others to cover up? The conclusion is ARR DID NOT COPY MSV There is no doubt that MSV is a great composer but bare in mind that ARR is genius and have no reason to copy, okay? Have a great day --- In [email protected], "arrfanz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i hope evryone stop talking about musical notes,raaga or something > else.I am talking about the similarity in the tunes.dont force > yourself to find any other excuses!!!!!!!!!.Maybe arr not copy the > song but the tune are very similar.even its two lines but still it > is very similar.i am very new to this group.but i thought all arr > fans is very open minded and i can share anything about a.r > rahman.but some people who thinks they are very good in music and > talk about raaga.they know what they talk is wrong and keep forcing > themself to find other excuses.please change.please dont think i am > not arr fan and for the people i am talking about please dont think > u are the best arr fan.Thank You and Bye. > > disapointed arr fan, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- In [email protected], Guy Harish <hari_gentleguy@> > wrote: > > > > > > Hei bro....U've done an excellent job in clearin up this > doubt...They're not the same...ARR DIDNT & WONT COPY.....!!!!!At > least this really shows who r the real fans of ARR....Haiyo > haiyo,ore tamashe po with this people....;)Stay happy always > guys....ARR & ARR's Music will always remain pure.... > > Yur Fren & ARR Fan; > > HariRAHMANiac > > Mohamed Yaseer <mohamedyaseermohamedmydeen@> wrote: > > Hi everyone...Hope this will clear the doubt that A.R Rahman > didn't copy MSV's adi ennadi raakkamma.. > > > > I have written the musical notes for both songs and attached it > with this mail...You will realize that the notes are different but > the arrangement are almost the same...I also have attached the midi > of both songs which was claimed to be similar...Will upload the part > of the real song in gmail account soon...Try to listen to it again > and again...Note each and every part of...You guys will be > fascinated the difference.... > > > > Hope this will satisfy everyone...We can come to the conclusion > that A.R Rahman didn't copy MSV's songs but both songs appear from > the same raaga and A.R Rahman and M.S Visvanathan are great > composers.... > > > > Have a wonderful day... > > > > > > riyaz ahamed <riyaz_vln@> wrote: > > > > illayaraja ,yuvan shankar raja, Harris was copying a whole song, > but noone was Complaining them. if rahman copies single line > everyone was telling rahman copies. > > > > mohamed mahees <m_mahees@> wrote: hi and hi again....i > agree with my_arr....it has been happening a lot of late...not only > accusations against arr, but also the degrading of other MDs in this > group..d best way is to appreciate the good, and discard the > bad...it is not at all encouraging to accuse MDs of copyin, and it > is not fair to condemn them if several notes sound similar as like > my_arr said, sa re ga ma pa da ni, thats all we have... > > > > mahees > > > > my_arr <my_arr@> wrote: > > Some people tend to get over exited and straight away saying > that > > A.R Rahman copies just because the songs sound similar...Well we > > can't say if any other music directors use sa re ga ma pa da ni > > because that's all we have...It's a rotation of these seven keys... > > > > Giving a comment is highly appreciated and a healthy thing > > actually...I never say that arrfanz has no rights to post and > proof > > his point, but just think before using the word copy because it > can > > be highly offencing...Make sure you know the diffrence > > between 'copy', 'inspire', 'uplifted' and 'appear from the same > > raaga'...Am not trying to compare whether you have learnt > sangeetham > > or not but please don't come up with funny new terms...Sangeetham > is > > the very basic indian classical music and also the soul of the > music > > itself...Please don't kill it... > > > > I am talking generally...No offence to anyone... > > > > Have a nice day and enjoy your weekend... > > > > --- In [email protected], Arun Kumar wrote: > > > > > > Prudhvi, good comments man. > > > > > > To the subject, > > > I don't understand why people says 'ARR copies'. If that's the > > way he works then he won't be recognised globally. > > > > > > I believe ARR would himself be careful in his tunes that they > > don't resemble any other. Bcoz a single instance to prove he > copied > > will bring down his fame and hardwork he did so far. > > > I read in a reply to this subject that the first lines are > > only similar. Why will one copy only two lines. ARR is a genius - > > can any one think he fell in short for two phrases that made him > > to copy? > > > > > > And I didn't bother to check out the links provided claiming GF > > was copied or whatever. > > > > > > (In another message someone told Kan pesum vaarthaigal is copied > > from kuchi kuchi raakama. It's just notes are similar, it can't > > be said as copied) > > > > > > Regards > > > Arun > > > > > > Prudhvi > > wrote: Hi All, > > > > > > Please be clear about what this group is all about.... > > > > > > Is it about only praising ARR? > > > > > > Every member in this group (irrespective of whether he knows > > some sangeetam or not) is free to express his thoughts.. > > > > > > If someone comes up with some doubt about ARR copying, let him > > prove it. > > > > > > If someone finds some part of a song being copied, let him > > produce the samples as arrfanz did. > > > > > > After listening to the two samples, the Music Gurus of this > > group can comment. > > > > > > One need not shout unnecessarily on one's comments. > > > > > > I can understand that most of the members of this group are > > emotionally attached not only to ARR music but also to ARR himself. > > > > > > I think u got my point. > > > > > > > > > In a similar case, while watching the movie "Chaudhavi ka > > Chand", i felt as if some of the tabla beats used as a BGM in the > > movie were being reused by ARR in one of his songs. But when i > > listened carefully, i understood that it was not exactly the same. > > Actually we are soooo used to listening to ARR songs that we have > > such doubts while listening to others' music. > > > > > > Since i posted this in the group, do u think that i am not a ARR > > fan? > > > The sole reason we are a part of this grp is... we all are ARR > > fans. > > > > > > If someone tries to question his originality, it doesnt mean he > > is no more a fan of ARR. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Prudhvi > > > > > > arrfanz wrote: > > > > > > > > > u dont think u r to good MR.RAYRAI2k.Before u comment about > > anything > > > pls think first.dont talk rubish.what is ur problem if i created > > my > > > account before posting that message.I am a.r rahman fan and i > only > > > buy original arr cd.but i found there is similarity on that two > > > songs. if u really wanna listen to the ennedi rakkema pls go to > > this > > > web http://www.musicindiaonline.com/s? q=t.m.s&i=26&f=all&s=&o=225 > > > > > > Ennadi Rakkamma > > > Movie Name : Pattikkada Pattanama (1972) > > > Singer : Sounderarajan T M > > > Music Director : Viswanathan M S > > > Lyrics : Kannadasan > > > Year : 1972 > > > > > > > > > the same part is: > > > kamma karaile :kammakaraile umma kudekkava summa nee veluttukattu > > > enne di rakkama: adi ennadi rakkamma pallaku paduttu en nenju > > > kulungguraadi > > > > > > rayrai,do u need anymore explaination? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "rayrai2k" wrote: > > > > > > > > You create a yahoo ID today and very soon u bcame a memeber of > > thsi > > > > grp and in moments u cmment from SA that BOSS has copied in GF > > that > > > > too an old song and we did not even notice. > > > > Shud I praise u r genius, if you want just praise the grp will > > > praise > > > > u just for the sake of it. But just stop here. > > > > so do u mean to say adi ennethi rakkema(old movie) was done so > > > > futuristic, our great boy dont remember which movie is this > song > > > from. > > > > but pulled a song. 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