Because typical small touch screens eg. those that work with Rpi are not
working with OpenBSD, does that mean the alternatives are pretty much going
to be at least 2-3x bigger in form size if a small handheld computer was to
be made?  I looked up USB display examples and that may seem like it can
work as the size is small and its just a tiny cable.

https://statics3.seeedstudio.com/product/USB%20TFT%20Display_03.jpg is this
an example of what you meant? I am can be optimistic about having a setup
like this versus a huge brick.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Tinker <ti...@openmailbox.org> wrote:

> In the absence of MALI support, there are
>  * Supported USB display adapters ( http://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD
> -current/man4/wsudl.4 + http://man.openbsd.org/udl.4 ),
>  * miniPCIe-based video adapters ( http://versalogic.com/Products
> /PDF/DS-MPEe-V5.pdf , not sure if that chipset is supported), and
>  * miniPCIe to PCIe adapters ( http://www.banggood.com/Mini-P
> CI-E-Version-V8_0-EXP-GDC-Beast-Laptop-External-Independent-
> Video-Card-Dock-p-1011222.html ) that you can plug an ordinary graphics
> card to.
>
> iMX6 (supported) and RK3399 (not supported) have miniPCIe.
>
> Not sure if iMX6' (mini)PCIe is supported on OpenBSD?
>
> I guess otherwise the ARM architecture not brings any constraints in the
> ability to use these.
>
>
> On 2016-11-23 02:57, Rob Sciuk wrote:
>
>> Enlightenment has a fairly efficient frame buffer type interface used
>> in embedded systems (refigerators, phones, watches etc) which can work
>> on X11 or Wayland (IIRC).  That might solve the problem for
>> OpenBSD/Arm.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 22 Nov 2016, Tinker wrote:
>>
>> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 20:17:27 +0800
>>> From: Tinker <ti...@openmailbox.org>
>>> To: Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado <i...@juanfra.info>
>>> Cc: Haroon Khalid <har...@sodacrunch.com>, arm@openbsd.org,
>>>     owner-...@openbsd.org
>>> Subject: Re: Can a touch screen with with a typical small arm device and
>>>     OpenBSD?
>>>
>>> Juan,
>>>
>>> Ok you're right this is unimportant. Just for completeness for now,
>>>
>>> Is it possible to do an altogether opensource unaccellerated graphics
>>> driver for MALI today, based on all sources you've seen out there?
>>>
>>> Also what's KMS about, I see https://lwn.net/Articles/568169/ and
>>> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/
>>> brezillon-drm-kms.pdf but don't make too much sense, what's it about?
>>>
>>> Anyhow yeah you're right there's much more important things like 64bit.
>>>
>>> Tinker
>>>
>>> On 2016-11-22 10:41, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:05:40AM +0800, Tinker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Juan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Re console:
>>>>> Is there not even console graphics on the ARM boards yet, so only
>>>>> serial
>>>>> interface?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The HDMI/Video port requires a KMS driver.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Re X:
>>>>> Using open-source drivers only, you can actually run X on the Mali
>>>>> GPU:s
>>>>> (i.e. the chips in most ARM:s), unaccelerated.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IIRC, the most of ARM boards on Linux use a KMS driver + Xorg
>>>> modesetting driver. Anyway, the devs are working on more important
>>>> things for the platform.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Here's a video showing this on an EOMA68-A20 board in some Linux:
>>>>> https://youtu.be/iM4cDjGY9vY?t=180 .
>>>>>
>>>>> The low speed of the A20 CPU results in some flickering when switching
>>>>> windows and tabs. I think on the modern ~2Ghz ARM:s e.g. RK3399, as its
>>>>> single-thread and memory speed is approx 5x that of the A20, the
>>>>> unaccelerated X should provide a perfect desktop experience (web
>>>>> browsing,
>>>>> openoffice etc., anything except video decoding).
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be super ultra cool to be able to do this on OpenBSD some day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tinker
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-11-22 07:48, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote:
>>>>> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 11:46:48AM -0700, Haroon Khalid wrote:
>>>>> > > Is there any example of a touch screen like this working with a
>>>>> > > beaglebone
>>>>> > > or raspberry pi for example?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > https://www.adafruit.com/product/1601
>>>>> >
>>>>> > No, we don't have graphical support for the ARM boards yet.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Try with a "standard" (i.e. without special drivers) touch screen and
>>>>> > i386/amd64.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>

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