On 05/23/15 17:19, Douglas Beattie wrote:
> I think there is a difference between building OpenBSD "on real hardware"
> and building port binaries for ARMv7 which are intended to run across all
> of the ARMv7 target ports.

Obviously, you know MUCH more than the developers who have told you
otherwise.

> And I think the concern should be less about “OS bugs and emulator bugs”
> since (1.) you’re not building the OS, and (2.) ARM emulation is quite mature
> with several standard platform configurations which may be targeted (including
> ARMv7).

Building packages is exposing REAL BUGS in the OS on this platform,
SINCE IT CRASHES SO FREAKING OFTEN WHILE BUILDING PACKAGES!  That's not
acceptable!  Real bugs are being exposed and need to be fixed...and that
isn't happening.

Hey! I got an idea.  Rather than running an OS on emulated hardware, why
don't we just all run amd64 systems and be done with it?  Obviously you
don't give a rat's ass about how the OS works on real ARM hardware, so
what's the point of emulation except to slow the operation down?


And again, the issue is NOT the horsepower to build packages -- I
personally have got sufficient armv7 hw to do that now, and if there was
reason, I'd happily drop enough cash to double or triple my current
build performance.  Sadly, there is no reason for me to do that at this
time, this platform needs work before it is listed as ready for use.

If you want a particular package, build it.  If you want all the ARM
packages, build them.  Then watch what happens, and submit patches to
fix it.

*It isn't the packages we need; it's the patches*

Nick.

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