hi tobias
thx for your feedback
you're right - i was assuming that tiles are built upon ARM architecture but
i was wrong it's more a MIPS architecture but still not 100%
guess that explains why chris metcalf did a selfstanding arch in linux
and yes - gcc 4.4 is the first gcc version supporting tilera instruction set
regarding business interest...
yes and no
first i would like to push openbsd to its limits on a massive multicore
architecture - and in a business context:
we have very expensive loadbalancers/proxies/webfilters for which i
would be glad to show alternatives using OpenBSD
thx for thint towards cavium - sounds interresting..
thx
/pat

On Sep 26, 2010, at 13:30, Tobias Ulmer wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:43:10PM +0200, Patrick Oeschger wrote:
>> there is a rather new processor from TILERA (100 core chip) which is
>> most certainly already known here at OpenBSD ARM mailing list.
>> [http://www.tilera.com/products/processors/TILE-Gx_Family]
>> the processor/platform is targeted towards:
>> - high performance network security platforms
>>  - firewalling/vpn
>>  - utm
>>  - l7 deep packet inspection
>>  - network monitoring and forensics
>> - cloud computing
>>  - web application (lamp)
>>  - data caching (memcached)
>>  - database applications
>>  - high-performance computing
>> 
>> chris metcalf from TILERA did the current linux port and i was in
>> contact with him about two weeks ago.
>> it was chris who brought me in contact with the director of sales for
>> the EMEA region.
>> btw:
>> at this time QUANTA computer is starting to offer a 512 core 2U box
>> with an impressive performance/watt ratio (400 watts only for 512
>> cores).
>> [http://www.tilera.com/solutions/cloud_computing]
>> 
>> i guess those massive multicore chips would enable bleeding edge
>> high performance solutions based on OpenBSD.
>> 
>> now...
>> - anyone interested in porting OpenBSD/ARM towards TILERA?
> 
> Not speaking for the OpenBSD developers obviously, but...
> 
> My understanding is that "tile" is more of a MIPS architecture?
> In Linux, tile is a self-standing arch and it needs a special tile gcc
> port which is afaik only in gcc 4.4+.
> There's strong resistance against importing a GPLv3 compiler
> appearantly.
> 
> I'm pretty sure there's some interest, but given the amount of work
> (time) required in both toolchain and kernel, I'd say it won't happen
> anytime soon.
> 
>> - is there already some ongoing porting effort?
> 
> Very doubtful.
> 
>> - porting for this chip already discussed in this mailing list? 
> 
> No.
> 
> Sounds like you have a business interest in this processor running
> OpenBSD. An offer to employ/sponsor someone for a significant amount of
> time might well change the chances of this to happen.
> 
> You might want to look at Caviums Oceton, there's work going on to
> support that in OpenBSD.
> 
>> 
>> many thx
>> /pat
>> 
>> some links for those who want some more details:
>> company homepage:
>> http://www.tilera.com/
>> 64core processor:
>> http://www.tilera.com/products/processors/TILEPRO64
>> 100core processor with hardware packet (pre)processing
>> http://www.tilera.com/products/processors/TILE-Gx_Family
>> sample architecture for network appliances:
>> http://www.tilera.com/solutions/networking/network_security_appliances
>> 512core system from QUANTA computer inc. (available Q4-10/Q1-11):
>> http://www.tilera.com/solutions/cloud_computing
>> development system from TILERA:
>> http://www.tilera.com/products/platforms/TILEmpower_platform

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