On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 11:01:25PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Monday, November 21, 2022, Paul Boddie <p...@boddie.org.uk> wrote: > > On Monday, 21 November 2022 22:38:48 CET Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote: > >> paul, apologies, i misread. let me start again. > >> > >> On Monday, November 21, 2022, Paul Boddie <p...@boddie.org.uk> wrote: > >> > >> > One is too busy and directs us to the other who is incommunicative. > >> > >> this is the bit that is ambiguous and caused me to misunderstand. > >> whom is "one" and whom is "the other" when there are *three* > >> potential parties involved? > > > > OK, when someone is asked by Crowd Supply to contact the creators > directly, > > you (as creator #1) are evidently too busy > > no, this is wrong. or, factually misleading. > the 93 Cards are at *Think Penguin's premises*. > > i have spent 18 months persistently attempting > communication to recover those Cards. > > we are WAITING for the results of TESTING of those Cards. > > proceeding with the manufacture of the remaining 800 is > a HUGE RISK without information on the state of the 93 > that are WITHELD by Chris of Think Penguin. > > i am waiting JUST AS MUCH AS YOU ARE. > > there is no further action i can take beyond repeating > that the course of action is for ALL OF YOU to > CONTACT CHRISTOPHER WAID. > > > > and have directed us to Christopher > > Waid (as creator #2) who is incommunicative. > > i repeat. > > once again. > > public pressure from multiple sources and backers is > our last best chance. > > it will require multiple people, systematically, and > it will require those people to put the resultant > conversations onto publicly-accessible Social Media, > especially forums where Thinkpenguin customers are > likely to be present in some numbers. > > this type of action will cause Chris to lose business if > he does not respond to paying customers, which should > be sufficient to finally get him to respond. > > it is uncomfortable, but tough: i cannot protect him any > longer from the consequences of his failure to communicate. > > > > Personally, I find it all a bit perplexing. Although I know that you > brought > > Mr Waid into the effort with there apparently being some particular > interest > > from him in the laptop, I would imagine that most people following this > > project would have expected you to bring the effort to completion > yourself: > > fuck no, you must be absolutely kidding. you cannot possibly be serious. > > if you genuinely believe that then you cannot possibly have > been reading the updates where i specifically request assistance > and remind everyone systematically that this is and always > has been a COMMUNITY project where it lives and dies on what > people help out with. > > examples include writing documentation, wiki pages, developing > linux kernel support, u-boot patches and getting OS Support > up and running. none of which i can possibly be expected to > handle alone. > > i also go to some lengths to repeatedly state that as a > Certification Mark Holder i am NOT PERMITTED TO SELL PRODUCT > because it is a Conflict of Interest with the role and > responsibility of a Certification Mark Holder. > > once again, from the top: > > it places the ENTIRE PROJECT AT RISK to proceed with the > manufacture of the remaining Cards without first testing > the 93 that are being witheld by Chrstopher Waid at his > business premises. > > Mike needs to know if the yield was 95% or if it was 5%. > > we have no idea. > > 91 of those Cards could be FAULTY and CHRIS HAS NOT TOLD US > > without knowing what the fault might be, Mike is risking > proceeding to manufacture A THOUSAND FAULTY UNRECOVERABLE CARDS > > at which point this project will have no other choice but > to be declared terminated. > > so will you please > > will you please > > for god's sake > > stop arguing > > stop speculating > > and please > > please > > LISTEN > > and HELP > > by CONTACTING CHRISTOPHER WAID > > to ask him very simply: "where are the 93 Cards" > > so that we can send a Courier round to recover them, get them > to Portland, so that Joshua can test them. > > l. >
This whole conversation is making me wonder if Chris is still alive. -- hendrik > > -- > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > _______________________________________________ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk _______________________________________________ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
