I might be willing to reconsider the eligibility of hobbiests for receiving resources. If done clearly and explicitly, that entails much more than a simple tweak to the definition of organization, which this policy purports to be.
Thanks On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 1:38 PM David Farmer <[email protected]> wrote: > It is part of the current criteria. Further, calling a natural person, who > is not acting as a business and is strictly a hobbyist, an organization > seems a bit of a stretch to me. > > If you want to change things to include hobbiests, it should be a > clear and explicit change, not something snuck in the back door of a fuzzy > definition. > > Thanks. > > > On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 1:21 PM Tyler O'Meara <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Why is "Operate as legal businesses within the ARIN service region" a >> "fundamental criteria that must be included in the definition of an >> organization"? >> >> That requirement does not seem self-evident to me. >> >> Tyler >> >> On Fri, 2025-05-30 at 12:59 -0500, David Farmer via ARIN-PPML wrote: >> > I do not support the policy as written. As written, it is unclear >> whether >> > natural persons not conducting business and acting solely as hobbyists >> are >> > excluded. However, natural persons operating businesses in their own >> name >> > should be considered valid organizations. >> > >> > Organizations must; >> > 1. Operate as legal businesses within the ARIN service region. >> > 2. Operate a network within the ARIN service region with Internet >> number >> > resources allocated by or registered with ARIN. >> > 3. Meet other policy or eligibility criteria. >> > From a policy perspective, the first two are fundamental criteria that >> must >> > be included in the definition of an organization. >> > >> > I suggest the following revision to the policy text; >> > >> > > 2.x Organization >> > >> > > An organization is a company, corporation, partnership, sole >> proprietorship, >> > > government agency, non-profit entity, educational institution, or >> natural >> > > person operating as a legal business within the ARIN service region. >> It must >> > > also operate a network within the ARIN service region with Internet >> number >> > > resources allocated by or registered with ARIN and meet other policy >> or >> > > eligibility criteria. >> > >> > I also want to point out the recent blog post by ARIN Staff about this >> > subject. >> > https://www.arin.net/blog/2025/05/28/individual-requests/ >> > >> > Thanks. >> > >> > On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 12:33 PM ARIN <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > On 15 May 2025, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted ARIN-prop-343: >> > > Resource Issuance to Natural Persons as Draft Policy. >> > > >> > > Draft Policy ARIN-2025-4 is below and can be found at: >> > > >> > > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2025_4 >> > > >> > > You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will >> > > evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this draft >> policy with >> > > ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the >> Policy >> > > Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are: >> > > >> > > * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration >> > > * Technically Sound >> > > * Supported by the Community >> > > >> > > The PDP can be found at: >> > > >> > > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ >> > > >> > > Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: >> > > >> > > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > >> > > Eddie Diego >> > > Policy Analyst >> > > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Draft Policy ARIN-2025-4: Resource Issuance to Natural Persons >> > > >> > > Problem Statement: >> > > >> > > ARIN policies currently restrict the issuance of number resources to >> > > organizations. This limits access for individuals who are running >> networks >> > > under their own legal name, especially in regions where forming or >> > > registering a business is not required or feasible. Other RIRs such >> as RIPE >> > > NCC allow individuals to receive resources directly. ARIN should >> consider >> > > similar flexibility to ensure equal and consistent access to Internet >> number >> > > resources for all operators, regardless of legal structure. >> > > >> > > Policy Statement: >> > > >> > > This proposal introduces explicit policy text into the NRPM to allow >> number >> > > resource issuance to natural persons (individuals) who provide valid >> > > justification and identity verification. >> > > >> > > Amend NRPM Section 2 to add the following definition: >> > > >> > > 2.18 Organization >> > > >> > > An organization is a company, corporation, partnership, sole >> proprietorship, >> > > government agency, non-profit entity, educational institution, or a >> natural >> > > person acting in a capacity consistent with operating a network and >> who >> > > meets ARIN’s resource eligibility criteria. >> > > >> > > Comments: >> > > >> > > Sections 4.2, 5.1, and 6.5 shall be interpreted to allow >> “organizations” as >> > > newly defined in Section 2.12, thereby including individuals where >> > > appropriate. >> > > >> > > Staff may develop identity verification and residency requirements >> > > appropriate to individuals (e.g., government-issued photo ID and >> proof of >> > > address). >> > > >> > > All resource justification, utilization, and RSA signing requirements >> remain >> > > unchanged. >> > > >> > > There has been extensive discussion of this topic on the ARIN Public >> Policy >> > > Mailing List (PPML) in April 2025. Participants have cited >> inconsistencies >> > > and barriers created by reliance on state-level business registries, >> and >> > > called for more inclusive eligibility mechanisms similar to other RIR >> > > regions. The proposal addresses these concerns while maintaining >> > > accountability and justification requirements. >> > > >> > > Timetable for implementation: >> > > >> > > Recommend implementation within 3–6 months of ratification to allow >> ARIN >> > > staff and legal counsel to develop supporting processes. >> > > >> > > Anything else: >> > > >> > > This proposal does not reduce the level of justification required to >> obtain >> > > resources, but merely expands eligibility to natural persons who >> operate >> > > networks and meet all existing technical and usage criteria. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > ARIN-PPML >> > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> > > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). >> > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> > > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > =============================================== >> > David Farmer Email:[email protected] >> > Networking & Telecommunication Services >> > Office of Information Technology >> > University of Minnesota >> > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 >> > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 >> > =============================================== >> > _______________________________________________ >> > ARIN-PPML >> > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). >> > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >> > > > -- > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:[email protected] > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 > =============================================== > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:[email protected] Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
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