Hi Bill,
Thanks for your thoughts.
May I ask if you're thinking changes with the understand that all of the
addresses being considered are going to be purchased. So really the needs tests
are besides the point. The payment of the money is the expression of need.
I myself would be uneasy at the thought of anybody making a business out of
accessing free public IP pools and turning around and renting them.
But here in Arin where we're holding this discussion, that will not be a
problem because of the policy moats around our free pools.
Conservation is provided by the market. Addresses will flow to their best and
highest need.
Regards,
Mike ---- On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 19:38:15 -0400 [email protected] wrote ----On Fri,
Sep 10, 2021 at 1:13 PM John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:> On Sep 10, 2021,
at 12:25 PM, William Herrin <[email protected]> wrote:> > On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at
6:06 AM John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:> >> An LIR may not assert that
they have a new _technical need_ for more IP address space as a result of
signing a leasing contract.> >> > Lol. They have to take the extra step of
programming a router. The> > business need is made technical. Such a high, high
bar.>> Yes, under current policy that is correct.>> Do you see that as a
problem – and if so, do you have a proposed change to policy text to improve
it? That requirement could be eliminated or could be strengthened (as the
community feels most appropriate.)Hi John,I think:1. It's disingenuous to argue
that a LIR can't lease addresses absentinfrastructure when the infrastructure
bar they have to meet isnegligible.2. I've tried and failed to draft policy
which sets a higherinfrastructure bar without creating an operational problem
for realnetworks.3. I'm disturbed by the idea of an "ISP" which just leases
addresses.When I examine that feeling more closely, I find that it's not
fardifferent than the unease I feel about ISPs providing any addressesfor BGP
use by customers, with or without network infrastructure.Which in turn is not
far different than I feel about ISPs providinglarge blocks of addresses to any
customer rather than asking them toprocess technical need through ARIN. All
three of those situationshave conflicts of interest in which the ultimate user
of thoseaddresses may not be well served. Fixing these things -would-
likelymean operational changes to real networks.Regards,Bill Herrin--William
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