I am also against this proposal.
If we allow holders of larger blocks back onto the list, we take away
blocks that should go to smaller holders.
The waiting list is NOT a lottery to be "won", and I think the policy
should not change.
Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, Andrew Dul wrote:
I do not support the reintroduction of organizations onto the wait-list who
were removed due to having existing address holdings larger than a /20. Being
on the wait-list was never a guarantee that you would receive space. The AC
had to balance the various elements of block size and organizations who would
be eligible to receive space under the updated policy and we were aware that
the rules as implemented would prevent some organizations on the wait-list from
receiving blocks going forward.
Speaking only for myself, not the AC
Andrew
On 6/19/2020 11:25 AM, Alyssa Moore wrote:
Hi folks,
There was some great discussion of this policy proposal at ARIN45. We
hear a wide range of views including:
1. Don't grandfather organizations. The new waitlist policy is sound.
2. Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16 should be
eligible for their original request size (even if it exceeds the new limit
of a /22).
3. Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16 should remain
eligible if their holdings exceed a /20 OR a /18. The draft policy
under discussion specifies a /18 total holdings for grandfathered
orgs, while the current waitlist policy (2019-16) specifies a /20.
4. Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16 should be
eligible regardless of their total holdings because that was not a
restriction of the policy under which they originally qualified for
the waitlist.
There was general support to continue finessing this draft. If you have
views on the above noted parameters, please make them known here.
For reference:
Old waitlist policy
1. Requester specifies smallest block they'd be willing to accept, equal to or
larger than the applicable minimum size specified elsewhere in ARIN
policy.
2. Did not place a limit on the total existing IP address holdings of a party
eligible for the waitlist.
3. Made resources issued from the waitlist ineligible for transfer until after
a period of 12 months.
New Waitlist Policy
1. Limits the size of block ARIN can issue on the waitlist to a /22.
2. Places a limit on the total existing IP address holdings of a party
eligible for the waitlist at a /20 or less.
3. Makes resources issued from the waitlist ineligible for transfer until
after a period of 60 months.
Best,
Alyssa
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 3:35 PM David Farmer <[email protected]> wrote:
I support this policy and believe the policy development process is the
proper place to handle this issue. However, this policy seems to
be implementable as a one-time policy directive to ARIN Staff. Once
implemented, by putting the effected organizations back on the waiting
list, it seems unnecessary to memorialized the text in the NRPM, it would
immediately become extraneous and potentially confusing to
future readers of the NRPM.
Therefore, I would like to recommend the Policy Statement not be added to the
NRPM upon its implementation. I believe this to be consistent with
the intent of the policy. Otherwise, does ARIN Staff have procedural advice on
how best to handle what seems like a one-time directive?
Thanks
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:21 PM ARIN <[email protected]> wrote:
Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Grandfathering of Organizations Removed from
Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16
Problem Statement:
The implementation of the ARIN-2019-16 Advisory Council Recommendation
Regarding NRPM 4.1.8: Unmet Requests caused some organizations to be
removed from the waiting list that were approved under the old policy’s
eligibility criteria. These organizations should have been grandfathered
when the waitlist was reopened to allow them to receive an allocation of
IPv4 up to the new policy’s maximum size constraint of a /22.
Policy Statement: Update NRPM Section 4.1.8 as follows:
Add section 4.1.8.3 (temporary language in the NRPM to remain until the
policy objective is achieved)
Restoring organizations to the waitlist
ARIN will restore organizations that were removed from the waitlist at
the adoption of ARIN-2019-16 to their previous position if their total
holdings of IPv4 address space amounts to a /18 or less. The maximum
size aggregate that a reinstated organization may qualify for is a /22.
All restored organizations extend their 2 year approval by [number of
months between July 2019 and implementation of new policy]. Any requests
met through a transfer will be considered fulfilled and removed from the
waiting list.
Comments:
Timetable for implementation: Immediate
Anything Else: While attending ARIN 44 and discussing this with other
community members the vast majority indicated that they agreed that some
organizations were treated unfairly. This proposal is a remedy.
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