The notary point John raises is valid. ARIN does thoroughly vet transfers
that I have known about. After that it is a criminal act outside of
their action other
than testify and observe and file paperwork. They appear to have done
good work in the fraud
case.
On 5/18/2019 10:50 PM, John Curran wrote:
On 18 May 2019, at 10:38 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette <[email protected]> wrote:
In message <[email protected]>,
John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:
Ronald -
However, it is quite likely that the state registration issue would have
been promptly corrected once raised, at which point we would have ended up
with the same outcome.
It's an arguably valid point, but I disagree, for the following reasons.
It's one thing to try to run a fraud against a non-governmental private
non-profit organization, like ARIN, which has both a strong incentive
never to litigate and also a strong and widely-known history of vitrually
never doing so. It is quite another thing entirely to commit a fraud
where the gateway requirement to begin the scam is to perpetrate at least
a portion of the fraud against one or more of these United States.
Ronald -
Incorrect - a party that retains someone to notarize fraudulent
documents for submission to ARIN is already well over that line, with both
state and federal statutes violated.
For the additional state registration to be a deterrent for such
parties, they’d effectively be of belief that “We’re not worried about the
federal wire fraud charges we’ll be facing, nor our existing state fraud we’re
perpetrating with our specious corporation registration in our home state, but
_are_ deeply concerned about the tax registration in second state, so let’s
quit now.”
Can you explain why the additional crime is particularly burdensome?
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers
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