FWIW, I think we should treat v6 the same as v4 and concur with Jordi, Morrow 
et all.

Guy Tal
Senior Director, Product Management
14605 S 50th Street, Phoenix, AZ, 85044
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From: ARIN-PPML <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jo Rhett
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:17 PM
To: Owen Delong <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2018-5: Disallow 
Third-party Organization Record Creation

On Apr 1, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Owen DeLong 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
as it occurs to me that the following dilemma comes into play:

I, as a contractor, often create ORG records for (and at the request of) my 
clients. I’m not their ISP and I’m not creating the records without their 
knowledge or informed consent (which is the real problem here). In fact, I only 
create them when I am in the process of preparing an IP and/or ASN request for 
them.

I agree completely with everything Owen said, as I often work in the same 
capacity.

There also exists situations where a data center (or other organizations) which 
doesn't own or provide IP assists its customers with preparation of documents 
for self-management. Perhaps even coarser, there are datacenter utilities and 
programs that help people prepare or fill out forms. This is under the 
direction or express action of the customer, but may be generated 
programatically.

It's hard to read the current proposal and understand the responsibilities in 
that context. I think we should be friendly to automation opportunities for 
people who only interact with ARIN once or twice in their organization's 
lifetime. (especially in the v6 era)

--
Jo Rhett
Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

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