As previously stated, IMHO, we should revise 8.5.4 to be consistent with 4.2.2.

Owen

> On Jan 31, 2018, at 13:18 , David Farmer <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> There seems to be a bit of controversy on the direction to take this policy.  
> Therefore as the shepherd, it would be helpful to hear from additional 
> community members regarding this policy. 
> 
> Do you support or oppose the policy as written? 
> 
> Do you think the inconsistency described in the Problem Statement should be 
> corrected?
> 
> If yes, should it be corrected by revising by section 8.5.4 to be consistent 
> with section 4.2.2, as proposed by the current text?
> 
> Or, as an alternative by revising section 4.2.2 to be consistent with section 
> 8.5.4?
> 
> Are there other alternatives to correct the inconsistency to be considered?
>      
> Other suggestions or comments?
> 
> Your additional feedback and participation are appreciated, thank you.
> 
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 7:42 AM, ARIN <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
> The following has been revised:
> 
> * Draft Policy ARIN-2017-9: Clarification of Initial Block Size for IPv4 ISP 
> Transfers
> 
> Revised text is below and can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_9.html 
> <https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_9.html>
> 
> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will 
> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft 
> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in 
> the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
> 
> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> * Technically Sound
> * Supported by the Community
> 
> The PDP can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html <https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html>
> 
> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html 
> <https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html>
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sean Hopkins
> Policy Analyst
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> 
> 
> 
> Draft Policy ARIN-2017-9: Clarification of Initial Block Size for IPv4 ISP 
> Transfers
> 
> Problem Statement:
> 
> It was noted in the ARIN 40 Policy Experience Report, that there is an 
> inconsistency in the initial block size for ISPs. Section 4.2.2 notes that 
> the initial ISP block size should be /21 whereas the initial block size in 
> 8.5.4 is noted as "minimum transfer size" which is effectively a /24. This 
> causes ISP organizations to be approved for different initial block size 
> depending on if they first apply for a transfer directly under section 8 or 
> if they apply for a block under section 4.  This policy is intended to 
> clarify this issue, by setting a consistent ISP initial IPv4 block size. It 
> was noted that ARIN staff current operational practice is to allow qualified 
> ISPs an initial /21 for Section 8 transfers when they first apply and are 
> approved under section 4.  If an organization applies under section 8 first 
> they are initially qualified for a /24; larger allocations require additional 
> documentation as noted in 8.5.5.
> 
> Policy statement:
> 
> Replace section 8.5.4;
> 
> 8.5.4. Initial block
> 
> Organizations without direct assignments or allocations from ARIN qualify for 
> the transfer of an initial IPv4 block, a /24 for assignments or a /24 up to a 
> /21 for allocations.
> 
> Comments:
> 
> Timetable for implementation: Immediate
> 
> Anything Else:
> 
> The ARIN 40 Policy Experience Report is available at;
> 
> Slides: 
> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_40/PDF/PPM/sweeting-policy-experience.pdf
>  
> <https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_40/PDF/PPM/sweeting-policy-experience.pdf>
>  
> 
> Transcript: 
> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_40/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_5
>  
> <https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_40/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_5>
> 
> Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVsfVMG_6fA 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVsfVMG_6fA>
> 
> Slides 10 - 13, located in the video from 6:30 to 8:30, are the relevant 
> portion of the report, questions from the audience follow.
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