I can accept any of the (now 3) proposals contained in this email. Owen
> On Jul 17, 2017, at 09:13 , Jason Schiller <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am replying to bring the conversation to one of the suggestions > on the table. > > Owen DeLong's suggesting of SWIP all IPv6 business users, and > not Residential users, > > Or Kevin Blumberg (and David Farmer) suggestion of SWIP'ing all > prefixes that might show up as a more specific in the global routing > table. > > > These are roughly the same result, and have a question of which > has a more easily understandable policy. > > The question is who here supports one or both of these > proposals? > > Who oppose one (if so which one) or both of these proposals? > > > I would like to suggest one friendly amendment... > - ISPs are required to SWIP IP space that is a reallocation. > - ISPs are required to SWIP IP space that is a reassignment > whenever that down stream customer requests such. That > SWIP must be a reassign detail, reassign simple, or a > residential privacy (if applicable) per the customer request. > > ___Jason > > > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:42 AM, John Curran <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > On 17 Jul 2017, at 9:47 AM, [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > > ,,, > > This is the problem. ARIN is not a carrier. While disclosure to ARIN to > > obtain number resources for the connection is OK, Public disclosure by or > > at the direction of ARIN policy of elements like domain name, name, address > > and telephone number is not. Since name, address, telephone number and > > domain name have already been identified have been defined in the order as > > elements of CPNI that are protected, world disclosure by ARIN or because of > > ARIN rules would not be a protected disclosure. > > > > The ISP might also be in trouble for providing the information to ARIN, if > > they know that ARIN intends to publish this information in a public > > directory, rather than disclosing it to ARIN solely to maintain number > > resources. As suggested by the OP, might have to call them customer 1-n. > > However that would violate the NRPM as written. Since the City, State and > > Zip Code are part of the address, even the "protected" residential records > > CPNI are being disclosed in violation of the CPNI Order. > > > > There is a big difference between disclosure to ARIN for taking care of > > numbering policy, and disclosure to the entire world. Third party > > disclosure is the main thing that the CPNI rules are intended to address. > > That is only permitted when it is needed for the provision of service. > > Compliance with registry policy is indeed necessary to receive number > resources; > it is up to you to determine whether IP number resources are necessary for > provision > of your Internet services. > > If you choose not to make use of Internet Numbers Registry System resources > for > provision of Internet services (or not assign them to your customers), then > that is > your choice. Some ISPs may feel that it is necessary to seek consent of > customers > who wish to have public IP number resources assigned in the size that would > result in > their publication in the public registry, whereas others may not based on > their reading > of applicable regulations regarding handling of CPNI information. Such > choices are > an operational and business matter left to each ISP to decide based on their > individual > understanding and circumstances. > > Thanks! > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > ARIN > > > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > <http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> > Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any > issues. > > > > -- > _______________________________________________________ > Jason Schiller|NetOps|[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>|571-266-0006 > > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
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