Agreed that we can park this for now, provided we can come up with a measurable turning point (let’s say, where the trend points to 1-2 years from exhaustion) where we should revive the discussion.
-C > On Apr 8, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Brian Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > > I believe the current practice is sufficient for now. If a sudden run on > 2-byte ASN's occurs this issue should be resurrected at that time. > > -- > Brian E Jones > > -- > Brian > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Andrew Dul <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Do other members of the ARIN community believe that the current policy and > operational practice is sufficient for now, or are there policy changes > needed at this time? > > Thanks, > Andrew > > On 4/7/2016 12:24 PM, Scott Leibrand wrote: >> Thanks, John. >> >> It sounds to me like ARIN is already doing the right thing (saving 2-byte >> ASNs for people who specifically want them), and that is sufficient for the >> time being. It does not appear that additional restrictions on who may >> request a 2-byte ASN are necessary at this time. If at some point 5+ years >> down the road the rate of 2-byte ASN demand starts to exceed the recovered >> supply and the 2-byte ASN inventory is depleted, we can consider a waiting >> list and/or technical requirements for requesting a 2-byte ASN at that time. >> >> Is there any other reason we need to consider taking action sooner? Was >> there something else I'm missing that prompted ARIN staff to start the >> consultation process around a 2-byte ASN waiting list? >> >> -Scott >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:44 AM, John Curran <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Folks - >> >> Please forgive this omnibus email of information, but we've had sufficient >> individual >> questions for 2-byte ASN data that it simply made more sense to provide one >> full >> summary rather than reply to each question individually... >> >> ARIN continues to have classic, 2-byte, AS numbers in inventory. Over the >> last few >> years, we have received small blocks of them in our new delegations from the >> IANA, >> obtained them from customer returns of AS numbers, or through revocations of >> AS >> numbers due to non-payment of registration fees. >> >> Our last AS block delegation from IANA was on 29 April 2015. We received 99 >> 2-byte >> ASNs and 925 4-byte ASNs at that time, and do not expect to receive any >> additional >> 2-byte ASNs from the IANA in future delegations. The 2-byte ASNs received >> from the >> IANA in 2015 were added to the inventory and placed on hold. The reason >> that the >> 2-byte ASNs were put on hold is that was not responsible to issue from the >> dwindling >> quantity of these resources to parties that did not specifically request >> such while we >> were still receiving AS number requests specifically asking for 2-byte AS >> numbers. >> >> As of today, we currently have the following 2-byte ASNs in ARIN inventory: >> >> 387 2-byte AS numbers on hold (most were routed at some point) >> 535 2-byte AS numbers revoked >> 133 2-byte AS numbers returned >> >> = 1,055 2-byte AS numbers returned/revoked/held (Total) >> >> Customers requesting ASNs receive a 4-byte ASN by default. If a request >> comes in >> that specifically requests a 2-byte ASN, we inform the customer that we have >> noted >> their special request and that we will accommodate it at the issuance phase >> of the >> ticket process if we have 2-byte ASN available at that time. >> >> Rate of issuance for 2-byte ASNs per month - >> >> 1/2015: 68 >> 2/2015: 77 >> 3/2015: 74 >> 4/2015: 60 >> 5/2015: 7 >> 6/2015: 12 >> 7/2015: 16 >> 8/2015: 4 >> 9/2015: 7 >> 10/2015: 11 >> 11/2015: 7 >> 12/2015: 11 >> 1/2016: 5 >> 2/2016: 6 >> 3/2016: 13 >> >> A waiting list will only be applicable after depletion of the present 2-byte >> ASN inventory, >> hence the following general run-out estimates are provided for consideration: >> >> - If we release all of the 2-byte ASNs from hold and issue ASNs strictly >> from smallest >> to largest, i.e. the practice prior to May 2015, it is likely that the >> current inventory of >> 2-byte ASN’s would last somewhere between 6 to 12 months. >> >> - If we continue the current approach (wherein 4-byte ASNs are issued by >> default and >> 2-byte ASNs are only issued upon special request), the current >> inventory of 2-byte >> ASNs would appear to last for many years (5+ years at present rate). >> >> I hope the above information helps in your policy development efforts! >> >> Thank you, >> /John >> >> John Curran >> President and CEO >> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ( >> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> <http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> >> Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any >> issues. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> <http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> >> Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any >> issues. > > > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > <http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> > Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any > issues. > > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
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