I’ve seen it from all sizes.  I don’t see an issue.  If a large quantity of 
people stand up and say they struggle.  I’ll be surprised.  And the assumption 
its easier for larger entities than smaller is very off base.  I’ve managed a 
variety of entity sizes and there are different variables at all levels that 
really create a level playing field.

And not everyone has the same contracts.  I’ve seen a variety and in those 
varieties there can also be contingencies.

That said, if the majority of people stand up and say it’s too difficult.  Then 
so be it.

Regards
Marla Azinger


From: Scott Leibrand [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 12:29 PM
To: Azinger, Marla <[email protected]>
Cc: Rob Seastrom <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Thoughts on 2015-7

Reducing the burden on ARIN staff is not part of the problem statement for this 
proposal (though it might be a side effect, depending on how they implement 
it).  The main goal here is to reduce the administrative burden on 
organizations who need to acquire IPv4 space via transfer.  That burden may 
actually be higher for smaller entities who don't have experience with and 
processes in place for jumping through ARIN's hoops.

I don't think this policy would have much impact on the ability of large 
well-funded entities to purchase as much address space as they like.  
Currently, those organizations simply write a contract that gives them full 
rights to the address space they're buying, and allows them to transfer the 
space with ARIN whenever they are ready to put it into use on their network (or 
can otherwise pass ARIN's needs justification tests).

-Scott


On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Azinger, Marla 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Does ARIN staff feel this is needed to support how they asses transfers?

Right now I don't support this proposal.   Based on experience I don't see a 
problem.

Additionally this could have a side effect of letting larger money endowed 
entities to purchase more address space faster and deplete the chances smaller 
entities had on the market.  This would shorten the life span of the v4 market.

Regards
Marla Azinger

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On 
Behalf Of Rob Seastrom
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:46 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [arin-ppml] Thoughts on 2015-7

Dear Colleagues,

It's been almost two months since ARIN 2015-7 was submitted.  Anyone have 
thoughts on "Simplified requirements for demonstrated need for IPv4 transfers"?

The AC would love your input.

Draft policy text follows:

Draft Policy ARIN-2015-7
Simplified requirements for demonstrated need for IPv4 transfers

Date: 23 June 2015

Problem statement:

ARIN transfer policy currently inherits all its demonstrated need requirements 
for IPv4 transfers from NRPM sections 4. Because that section was written 
primarily to deal with free pool allocations, it is much more complicated than 
is really necessary for transfers. In practice, ARIN staff applies much more 
lenient needs assessment to section 8 IPv4 transfer requests than to free pool 
requests, as 24-month needs are much more difficult to assess to the same level 
of detail.

This proposal seeks to dramatically simplify the needs assessment process for 
8.3 transfers, while still allowing organizations with corner-case requirements 
to apply under existing policy if necessary.

Policy statement:

8.1.x Simplified requirements for demonstrated need for IPv4 transfers

IPv4 transfer recipients must demonstrate (and an officer of the requesting 
organization must attest) that they will use at least 50% of their aggregate 
IPv4 addresses (including the requested resources) on an operational network 
within 24 months.

Organizations that do not meet the simplified criteria above may instead 
demonstrate the need for number resources using the criteria in section
4 of the NRPM.

Comments:

a. Timetable for implementation: Immediate

b. Anything else




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