Marty,
Are you suggesting the whole idea of removing needs testing from small
IPv4 transfers would be a massive abuse vector? Or;
Do you mean only John's suggestion of a presumption of good faith for
small allocations would be a massive abuse vector?
Thanks.
On 4/30/14, 17:19 , Martin Hannigan wrote:
It'll be a massive abuse vector.
Best,
Martin
On Wednesday, April 30, 2014, John Santos <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I agree with Bill. It might be appropriate to drop needs testing for
small allocations simply because it is not worth the effort, but I don't
see a /16 as being small. Something in the range of /24 to /20 would
be better.
Another idea to ponder would be instead of dropping the need
requirement,
we adopt a presumption of good faith for small allocations. ARIN would
simply take the word of the requester or recipient for small allocations
or transfers, but if it was later discovered the recipient was acting in
bad faith, the allocation could be revoked.
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014, William Herrin wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:35 AM, John Springer
<[email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > ARIN-prop-204 Removing Needs Test from Small IPv4 Transfers
> >
> > Policy statement:
> > Change the language in NRPM 8.3 after Conditions on the
recipient of the
> > transfer: from "The recipient must demonstrate the need for up
to a 24-month
> > supply of IP address resources under current ARIN policies and
sign an RSA."
> > to "For transfers larger than a /16 equivalent, the recipient must
> > demonstrate the need for up to a 24-month supply of IP address
resources
> > under current ARIN policies and sign an RSA."
>
> How would we go about assessing whether such changes prove harmful or
> helpful? What metrics does ARIN collect under this policy which
can be
> analyzed and presented here so we can consider expanding it to larger
> transfers? Does no justification mean no documentation?
>
> What makes you think /16 is the right place to start testing this
> idea? Traditionally /24 was the last no-justification request
> accepted. Why is that not the right place to start testing a new
> no-justification regime?
>
> For now I OPPOSE the proposal as written but I'd like to hear more.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>
>
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