I'd expect the Quick jump from 1.34 to 1.00 with the Cloudflare /12 and the Akamai /10 to have caused enough panic as is. I'd support reserving the IANA recovered address pool for that, but not current available IPv4 space.
Cordially Yours, Skylar MacMinn www.crissic.net Crissic Solutions, LLC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Farmer Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:24 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] NRPM 4.10 - is a /10 large enough? If I'm not mistaken the reserved /10 for IPv6 deployment and /16 for micro-allocations is not included in the counter. Could staff confirm please. Further, there is an additional approximately /10 that will come from the IANA recovered address pool. I'm comfortable with this being reserved for special purposes, if we see fit. However, I'm not comfortable with reserving more out of the current free pool at this point. We are well past the point where making that kind of change can occur without causing potentially bad side effects. Any drastic change in what is available for normal allocations at this point is likely create a panic. We discussed this as a community, there were proposals to reserve larger chunks including the whole last /8 as RIPE and APNIC did. We chose this strategy. In some situations never is better than too late. My best advice is find your towel and DON'T PANIC! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Panic_(The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy)#Knowing_where_one.27s_towel_is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Panic_(The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy)#Don.27t_Panic Thanks On 4/29/14, 12:54 , Bill Owens wrote: > A couple of recent threads here and my general sense of the (lack of) > urgency around IPv6 deployment has made me wonder whether setting > aside a /10 under NRPM 4.10 - Dedicated IPv4 block to facilitate IPv6 > Deployment - is really going to be enough. I was looking at Geoff > Huston's graphs (http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/) and noticed that > both RIPE and APNIC, by coincidence, will be using up the first /10 > out of their reserved /8s at about the same time, near the end of this > year. A naive calculation says that APNIC will go through the /10 in > about 3.5 years, and RIPE in about 2.2 years. Of course it is > difficult to predict how the runout of the reserved /10 under 4.10 > will look, but I think it's reasonable to assume that it won't be any > slower than 2-3 years, since unlike RIPE and APNIC there's no limit to > how much space an entity can receive under 4.10, only the pace at > which it can be handed out; assuming the maximum rate, a /22 can be > issued to someone every two years, r > ather than once and done as with the other two RIRs. > > Given that the inventory currently contains one /9 and one /10, we are > getting close to the point where any additional set-asides will no longer be > possible, so I thought it might be worthwhile at least considering whether > the 4.10 pool ought to be enlarged while it still can be. . . > > Bill. > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > -- ================================================ David Farmer Email: [email protected] Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 ================================================ _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
