I support prop 207, but would like some further discussion. Hopefully rapidly; Derek sounds like his org deserves the space under the conditions.
-george william herbert [email protected] On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Andrew Dul <[email protected]> wrote: > A proposal has been submitted into the PDP process based upon feedback > and breakout discussions that occurred at the last meeting. I believe > this proposal may help with the issue which started this thread. > > https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_207_orig.html > > There is also another group of folks working on a proposal to update > section 4.2.2 based upon feedback received at the meeting and the policy > experience report > ( > https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_33/PDF/monday/nobile_policy.pdf > ) > presented at the meeting. I suspect we will also have another proposal > submitted to the policy development process shortly. > > Andrew > > > On 4/28/2014 5:16 PM, Steven Ryerse wrote: > > I agree it is past time to do this as it is ARIN's reason to exist to > allocate. > > > > > > Steven Ryerse > > President > > 100 Ashford Center North, Suite 110, Atlanta, GA 30338 > > www.eclipse-networks.com > > 770.656.1460 - Cell > > 770.399.9099- Office > > > > ℠ Eclipse Networks, Inc. > > Conquering Complex Networks℠ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of David Huberman > > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 8:13 PM > > To: Michael Peddemors; [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Ip allocation > > > > Full support. Making a single ISP initial allocation criteria that > opens a /22 (or more!) to all first timers would be about 10 years past > due, but still helpful to the community ARIN serves. > > > > David R Huberman > > Microsoft Corporation > > Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS) > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf > of Michael Peddemors <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 4:45:20 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Ip allocation > > > > Actually, this is timely, and you probably started at the right place, > what would be needed though is for someone to write up a draft resolution > to this affect, to change current policies. > > > > I was just talking to several parties regarding the same issue, and > while there might have been justification in the past, when routing issues > were a greater concern than running out of IPv4 space, but given the > current situation, maybe it is time to rethink this policy. > > > > In the mean time, you are faced in getting two upstream providers to > route to your prospective /22. I know, it doesn't make too much sense that > the small guy should bear the burden of extra costs etc.. for being honest > about his projected requirements.. > > > > Any other support out there for policy changes in this area? > > > > On 14-04-28 04:33 PM, Derek Calanchini wrote: > >> Hello all, I will be brief as possible. I need assistance with either > >> requesting a policy change or an appeal/exception to current policy. > >> > >> I started business in 1995 with 4 Class C's assigned from Integra ( > >> /22 ). I am a full service IT provider offering pretty much > >> everything but connectivity. Over the years I have developed my > >> network such that I am using my IP's very efficiently. Host headers > >> on most web sites, internal IP's whenever possible, and of course > >> certain thing must be static, single IP's on a host. > >> > >> I am moving in less then a year to a new office, and taking the > >> opportunity to get on the ATT fiber backbone rather then 4 bonded > >> T-1's from Integra (which is very expensive) Integra tells me I can > >> not take my IP's with me, and ATT tells me the largest block they will > >> give me is a single class C. > >> > >> So I went out to Arin and setup my account and requested a /22 which > >> was denied because the smallest block they will give a single homed > >> ISP is a > >> /20 (4096 ip's) > >> > >> I feel like I am being penalized for using my IP's efficiently!! As I > >> see it, I only have one option: Rework my network so every site I > >> host uses it's own dedicated IP so that I can justify needing a > >> /20...in which case I feel I would be doing the internet community a > disservice. > >> > >> Can anyone provided feedback on how to better resolve this? How do I > >> start getting the policy changed? Is there a process I can go through > >> to get an exemption? Would excalation my request be of any use? > >> > >> With the IP 4 space dwindling, wouldn't it be a better policy to allow > >> small business to get only what they need? > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> > >> Derek Calanchini > >> Owner > >> Creative Network Solutions > >> Phone: 916-852-2890 > >> Fax: 916-852-2899 > >> > >> "Adopt the metric system!" > >> > >> CNS LOGO > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- > >> <http://www.avast.com/> > >> > >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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