On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:56:06AM -0500, Bigby James wrote: > > > It seems this is just a change in the default settings, nothing more. > > > > I know, but not everyone follows systemd-devel. So, just updating systemd > > would > > lead to syslog "mysteriously" not logging anything... > > Sure, *if* you didn't already explicity set journald to use an external > logging > daemon. If you did, then the update is just going to create a *.pacnew file > that > can be deleted. In other words, the problem is improper configuration on the > part of the user, not impropriety on the part of upstream. > > I use syslog-ng myself, and it seems to me that if I'm going to be deviating > from the defaults set by upstream and the Arch devs then it falls to me to pay
Using syslog-ng is not "deviating from the defaults". So far the default was to
send things to _a_ syslog -- no modification of journald.conf was required
(check the old manpages).
Therefore, you won't get a pacnew file, and the new config will be quietly put
in place, breaking existing installations for no valid technical reason.
Anyway, let's not argue about the semantics, it's not a big deal of course.
Hopefully, this thread saves someone a bit of hairpulling :)
Cheers,
--
Leonid Isaev
GPG fingerprints: DA92 034D B4A8 EC51 7EA6 20DF 9291 EE8A 043C B8C4
C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D
pgpScBICVVdOh.pgp
Description: PGP signature
