In message <cakvlzuhap9g8ubpsivmhmrwjbl7nwp+uz6vr4qiwcacvcbd...@mail.gma il.com>, denis walker <ripede...@gmail.com> writes
>I am hoping there are some lawyers or legal experts in this WG. they are even less likely to advise you than random dilettantes > I >would like to know if it is possible for me, as a private individual, >to bring a civil case against an End User for damages because of some >abusive behaviour? in most jurisdictions, of course > To do so I would need to know who the End User is. >A consequence of the policy change 2023-04 means that the End User >details may not be documented in the RIPE Database. As far as I can >determine (from googling) a court order can only be served on the LIR >to identify the End User by an LEA in a criminal case. in England and Wales that is not the case ... what you would need is called a "Norwich Pharmacal Order" >I have tried to find out what I can do in a civil case. Most of the >information is such heavy legal stuff, I don't have the training to >interpret it. For example: if you are going to proceed you will need expert help. That will cost $$$$ ... face up to that immediately, and get the answers you need from people qualified to provide them, and then use this list for its proper purpose. -- richard Richard Clayton Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a Benjamin little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Franklin
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