Dear colleagues, Regarding Brian’s initial question, we do not know what is driving this volume of requests; we have explained our processes and our available data to this particular LEA multiple times.
Kind regards, Theodoros Fyllaridis Legal Counsel RIPE NCC On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 at 02:11, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > I was expecting something like this for a long, long time, to be honest. > What you now have is something created for want of that mythical beast, the > internet police, which nobody ever seems to be. > > --srs > ------------------------------ > *From:* anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-boun...@ripe.net> on behalf of Alex > de Joode <adejo...@idgara.nl> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2024 12:32:24 AM > *To:* Serge Droz <serge.d...@first.org> > *Cc:* anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> > *Subject:* Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023 > > The EU is working on implementing the e-Evidence directive. > > This means any-and-all EU based LEO's can request data from RIPE NCC and > RIPE NCC needs to supply the data if it has the data available. No 'let us > check' no 'you can have this via our website' answers possible anymore. > This will most likely be extended for signatories of the 'Budapest > convention', the US is very eager to have access to this data also. (There > is the public data, but to know who pays for a resource is of course easier > to check as the banks know a lot more about their clients than RIPE). > > > https://commission.europa.eu/law/cross-border-cases/judicial-cooperation/types-judicial-cooperation/e-evidence-cross-border-access-electronic-evidence_en > -- > IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 > > On Wed, 10-04-2024 19h 28min, Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg < > anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> wrote: > > Hi Randy > > Agreed and I'm not saying we should just hand everything over on a gold > plate to LE. Bien we cannot just say no all the time, but should actually > come up with solutions we feel are good or a good compromise. > > I expect LE to understand our issues, but we should understand theirs > > Best > Serge > > > On 10 April 2024 16:25:26 UTC, Randy Bush <ra...@psg.com> wrote: > > In a recent talk Jane Easterly said: "The private sector has promised > better security for yeas but has not delivered. This has to change". > > > was this not in the context of software and platform safety? easterly > has been riding that hobby horse for a few years, and with serious > justification. > > but i agree that the RIRs could be clearer in what they can and can not > do for LE. and there needs to be a balance of visibility and privacy. > LE is always gonna want more; that's their job, and we need them. but, > as jeff schiller said (in the ietf protocol design context) "Law > enforcement was not supposed to be easy. Where it is easy, it's called > a police state." > > randy > > -- > Dr. Serge Droz > Director, Forum of Incident Response and Security Teams > https://first.org > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg >
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