That's probably a better question for a marketing forum than a developer forum.
On Monday, July 30, 2012 6:48:10 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote: > > I see, we plan to implement the same solution that Fireflies uses with a > transparent banner. Or do you think live wallpapers without ads will have > better chances at getting lots of downloads and being selected for the > "best new free apps" section? > > I just wonder, because our live wallpapers have performed much better on > SlideME than on Google play. One of our apps have been the most downloaded > live wallpaper on SlideME, but not of them have ever reached the top40 most > downloaded live wallpapers on Google Play, only the top100:( > > Den måndagen den 30:e juli 2012 kl. 01:17:50 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft: >> >> lol, I can just see the headlines now, "Google says apps with ads are bad >> idea". >> >> I take back what I said about not building a business around live >> wallpapers. I didn't think people could make money with blogs when they >> first started and a couple people got rich starting some highly successful >> blogs, so anything is possible in this industry. >> >> MobileVisuals, it does sound like you answered your own question, though. >> >> On Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:56:14 PM UTC-4, Dianne Hackborn wrote: >>> >>> This isn't Google's opinion, it is my opinion. >>> >>> If other people have found ways to do ads that work, then great. As I >>> said, I am not morally opposed to it, this just isn't a design goal for >>> them. >>> >>> And it sounds like you see ways to do things that you think are >>> acceptable, so what are you looking for in your original question...? >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM, MobileVisuals < >>> eyv...@astralvisuals.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for explaining Google's opinion on this! The free version of >>>> Fireflies live wallpaper seems to have an ad solution, which works well. >>>> A transparent banner is shown at the top of the main screen for the >>>> live wallpaper. The reviews for the app are good and I don't see any >>>> complaints about the ad. I think it has been among the top40 most >>>> downloaded live wallapers. >>>> >>>> SlideME is the other big android appstore. The purchase to download >>>> rate here is almost 0%, so ad based free versions are the only solution >>>> for >>>> this appstore. One option is to have one free version without ads for >>>> Google play and and one version with ads for SlideME,but this would be >>>> time >>>> consuming. >>>> >>>> A purchase to download rate of 1% can be realistic on Google play. A >>>> company would get about 1$ if we the price is 1,5$. 100 000 free downloads >>>> each month on Google play would then be required to earn 1000$. Much less >>>> downloads would be required to >>>> get as much revenue if the free versions has ads. >>>> >>>> Could really a business model of only purchases generate as much >>>> revenue as purchases+ads? Maybe if removing the ads generated much more >>>> downloads. But there are a lot of live wallpapers with ads, which are >>>> getting lots of downloads, like Fireflies live wallpaper. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Den fredagen den 27:e juli 2012 kl. 23:39:20 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft: >>>> >>>>> Yea, I don't think live wallpapers were meant as a thing to build a >>>>> business around, unless you can sell a whole lot of them for $.99, which >>>>> you might on iOS (if they had the functionality). >>>>> >>>>> www.filtrsoft.com >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, July 27, 2012 6:22:39 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please explain why you think it is a terrible idea to mix >>>>>> live wallpapers with advertising? >>>>>> >>>>>> I have talked to several mobile advertising companies now and now one >>>>>> has any other advertising solution for live wallpapers than push >>>>>> notifications. Is any one else here developing live wallpapers? If so, >>>>>> how >>>>>> are you managing the advertising in the live wallpapers? >>>>>> >>>>>> Den onsdagen den 25:e juli 2012 kl. 19:10:12 UTC+2 skrev Dianne >>>>>> Hackborn: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a >>>>>>> terrible idea to me. Have you considering instead trying something >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> in-app billing to allow users to unlock features in your app? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 AM, MobileVisuals < >>>>>>> eyv...@astralvisuals.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push >>>>>>>> notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off >>>>>>>> well, >>>>>>>> but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from >>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>> company: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s >>>>>>>> information) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the >>>>>>>> add >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> o The skip button will transfer the user to your app to continue >>>>>>>> the app experience. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would this really work when the wallpaper is set as the current >>>>>>>> live wallpaper? The user doesn't want to press a button every time the >>>>>>>> screen is woken up? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anyone have any other idea of how to put ads in live >>>>>>>> wallpapers? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "Android Developers" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to android-developers@** >>>>>>>> googlegroups.com <android-developers@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> android-developers+**unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/**group/android-developers?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dianne Hackborn >>>>>>> Android framework engineer >>>>>>> hack...@android.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have >>>>>>> time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. >>>>>>> All >>>>>>> such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> see and answer them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> Den fredagen den 27:e juli 2012 kl. 23:39:20 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft: >>>> >>>>> Yea, I don't think live wallpapers were meant as a thing to build a >>>>> business around, unless you can sell a whole lot of them for $.99, which >>>>> you might on iOS (if they had the functionality). >>>>> >>>>> www.filtrsoft.com >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, July 27, 2012 6:22:39 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please explain why you think it is a terrible idea to mix >>>>>> live wallpapers with advertising? >>>>>> >>>>>> I have talked to several mobile advertising companies now and now one >>>>>> has any other advertising solution for live wallpapers than push >>>>>> notifications. Is any one else here developing live wallpapers? If so, >>>>>> how >>>>>> are you managing the advertising in the live wallpapers? >>>>>> >>>>>> Den onsdagen den 25:e juli 2012 kl. 19:10:12 UTC+2 skrev Dianne >>>>>> Hackborn: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a >>>>>>> terrible idea to me. Have you considering instead trying something >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> in-app billing to allow users to unlock features in your app? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 AM, MobileVisuals < >>>>>>> eyv...@astralvisuals.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push >>>>>>>> notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off >>>>>>>> well, >>>>>>>> but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from >>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>> company: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s >>>>>>>> information) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the >>>>>>>> add >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> o The skip button will transfer the user to your app to continue >>>>>>>> the app experience. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would this really work when the wallpaper is set as the current >>>>>>>> live wallpaper? The user doesn't want to press a button every time the >>>>>>>> screen is woken up? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anyone have any other idea of how to put ads in live >>>>>>>> wallpapers? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "Android Developers" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to android-developers@** >>>>>>>> googlegroups.com <android-developers@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> android-developers+**unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/**group/android-developers?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dianne Hackborn >>>>>>> Android framework engineer >>>>>>> hack...@android.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have >>>>>>> time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. >>>>>>> All >>>>>>> such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> see and answer them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Android Developers" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> android-developers@googlegroups.com >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dianne Hackborn >>> Android framework engineer >>> hack...@android.com >>> >>> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to >>> provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. 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