A third party application installed on even a locked G1 can be retrieved from it with a simple "adb pull" (you just need to know its package name) or programmatically by retrieving its information from the PackageManager and opening and reading the .apk file path it tells you.
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Shane Isbell <shane.isb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Joel, > > Are you able to pull the applications that have been installed through > Android Market off of the device on the dev phone? SAM is using the system > installer, so it will be the same as Android Market. > > We are limiting paid purchases to just the device. Secure for G1, but > interesting to see what the implications are on the dev phone. Web installs, > like through Handango or AndroidGuys, go straight to /sdcard/downloads, so > that method is wide open, and you might as well be giving your application > away. > > As I discussed with Steff, security is not 100%, some people are going to > be knowledgable enough to obtain installed applications, even from Android > Market. At SlideME, we will do our best to protect paid content. If there > are any security issues that people find, let us know and we will address > them. We also have a project that has been under development that I hope > will address some of these additional concerns next month. > > When I was involved in a J2ME provisioning server launch at a US carrier, a > number of years ago, a lot of the same concerns existed. Ultimately the > fraud rate was pretty low and the carrier did quiet well. Eventually, they > implemented things like forward locking, to address the concerns of major > content providers. The decision lies strictly in the expected fraud rate and > how much the developer is willing to pay to protect themselves. That is > largely a personal call. Paying an extra 20-25% to insure that the > application can't be forwarded to another user, when the fraud rate is 5%, > wouldn't justify it. If you are thinking 30% fraud rate it will. But > typically fraud rates are not nearly that high in mobile. Most people aren't > motivated enough and wouldn't trust an app from an unknown source. People > really do pay for applications in mobile. > > Thanks, > Shane > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Joel Knighton <joel.knigh...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> What's this about Android Market not being available on developer phones? >> Based on the developer phone sitting next to me, I'm going to have to say >> that's just not true. Android Market is definitely available on developer >> phones. >> >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Michael MacDonald < >> googlec...@antlersoft.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> I believe applications are written to a directory on the phone that is >>> not visible to normal users (via unix permissions). If you have a >>> developer phone (which gives you root access) you could access it. >>> I think that's oneof the reasons Android Market is not available on >>> the developer phones. >>> >>> I don't know what SlideMe's policy is, but I think in general if you >>> make your application installer available to people who have root access >>> to their phones,they will be able to get the .apk and potentially make >>> it available to anyone with the SDK to install. >>> >>> Steff wrote: >>> > Hi >>> > >>> > I am thing about releasing my application on SlideMe. I have talked to >>> > someone with SlideMe, and they tell me that priced application is just >>> > installed on the device itself. I asked them how they prevent people >>> > from just copying the application to another phone - for instance >>> > using some filebrowser app for Andoid. They tell me that the >>> > applications are stored as "private" and that they cannot be copied, >>> > but I dont quit understand. Is there some feature in Android letting >>> > applications (for instance SlideMe's SAM), copy files to the device, >>> > files that cannot be copied, but can be loaded to run? >>> > If yes, please direct me to some documentation/explanation of that >>> > feature! >>> > >>> > Regards, Per Steffensen >>> > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Joel Knighton >> >> >> >> > > > > -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
