I'd never claim that all of the software on android can be replaced by third
party developers.  Most system application components can be re-used and
replaced by third party apps, but that is a very different statement.

Also, just being able to replace the phone app (which is not really any app,
but more a core system process) means nothing about being able to do
IVR-like features -- all the phone app does is talk with the radio module
(running on a different processor) using very high-level commands.

If you want to add new features to the platform, you can get the source code
and look/work on it, and talk about that work on android-platform.  Though
again, I doubt you would get very far adding IVR features even directly
modifying the platform code.

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 5:30 PM, StevenS <shearer_ste...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Thanks for the replies David !
>
> I totally understand that the hardware manufacturer needs to implement
> the appropriate links - like a couple of extra traces of copper - what
> I don't understand is WHY they wouldn't !  Or WHY it wouldn't be seen
> as a basic requirement for the product.
>
> I also question WHY there's concern about a lack of CPU power - I've
> been doing IVR development since early 1997, where an Intel 386 CPU
> was supporting multiple simulatenous phone calls.  Well, actually, in
> hindsight, the CPU was supported by a telephony board ...  so maybe
> this concern is valid ...
>
> In any event, what happened to the statement that ALL software on the
> Android platform could be replaced - including the phone
> (interface) ?  It's my interpretation that if the phone app can handle
> incoming & outgoing calls, then it should be possible to extend it to
> include IVR-like features.
>
> Is there a more-appropriate forum to discuss this 'issue' /
> requirement / feature request ?
>
> Thanks,
> Steven.
>
>
> On Jan 3, 8:36 am, Dave Sparks <davidspa...@android.com> wrote:
> > It may be a compelling feature, but it's outside the control of the
> > apps processor. It is up to the hardware manufacturer to implement
> > this, not Android.
> >
> > My understanding is that there are strict latency requirements on GSM
> > audio that makes it difficult to loop call audio through the apps
> > processor.
> >
> > On Jan 2, 4:06 pm, "mashpl...@gmail.com" <mashpl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > This is a mistake.  There are many reasons why exposing in-call audio
> > > to the apps process is a good idea.  Please reconsider your position
> > > on this.
> >
> > > Kind Regards,
> >
> > > Vince
> >
> > > On Jan 3, 1:27 am, Dave Sparks <davidspa...@android.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > There are no plans for exposing in-call audio to the apps processor.
> > > > In-call audio is controlled by the radio and typically not accessible
> > > > to the apps processor.
> >
> > > > On Dec 26 2008, 10:00 pm,StevenS<shearer_ste...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > If I'm reading the API documentation correctly, neither the
> > > > > MediaRecorder.AudioSource nor the  MediaPlayer.AudioSource can
> connect
> > > > > to the telephone conversation audio channels - eg. the TELEPHONE
> > > > > CONVERSATION microphone & speaker 'lines'.
> >
> > > > > Both of these would be required to support advanced call handling
> > > > > applications ON THE DEVICE.
> >
> > > > > Are there any plans to support this type of functionality ?
> >
> > > > > When might it be available ?
> >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Steven.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
> >
>


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