On Friday 29 December 2017 17:12:07 Jon LaBadie wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 12:28:33PM -0800, Chris Miller wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > Just setting things up, and I think I ran out of docs...
> >
> > I have no tape drives, so that means "vtape", which is fine, as long
> > as I can size the vtape volume to be no larger than and no smaller
> > than the current backup under consideration. Is this possible? Seems
> > like a silly question, but physical tapes have a specific size and a
> > small backup will result in surplus tape and a large backup will
> > result in multiple volumes. I'd like to avoid both situations.
> >
> > I found very little documentation. In fact there was so little, that
> > I think I saw all of it this morning. I have found:
> > http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/User_documentation Is there a
> > hidden archive that I haven't found?
>
> Welcome to amanda Chris.  Two comments first.
>
> The size of a vtape is its "maximum" size.  A 100GB vtape does not
> take up 100GB of disk unless it contains a backup of that size.
>
> Working with multiple vtapes and virtual changers is a breeze in
> amanda. Don't try to avoid multiple tape backups.
>
> Suppose you were used to working with 100GB physical tapes.  You may
> feel inclined to create 100GB vtapes in amanda.  You may do that and
> if your disk is 1TB, you would probably create 10 vtapes.  Explore
> 2 possibilities.
>
> Using 100GB vtapes, telling amanda to use only 1 vtape per run, you
> may discover most (all?) your vtapes are not full.  After you gain
> some data from backups you may find your tapes average well under
> 100% full and you can allocate more vtapes than 10 x 100GB to your
> 1TB drive.
>
> As a real example, I have 20TB of storage for vtapes and 240 x 100GB
> vtapes.  The 6 disks average 75-80% full even though I have 20% more
> vtapes than I "should".
>
> Another possibility is to allocate vtapes of 10 (or 20GB) and tell
> amanda that it can use up to 10 (or 5) vtapes per run.  Also tell
> amanda that DLEs* may be split across multiple tapes using "chunks"
> of about 10% or 20% the size of the vtape.
>
> This would be an efficient use of your storage.  A backup totalling
> 30GB would take 3 vtapes, 90GB would take 9.  Each vtape except the
> last would be filled to within 1 "chunk"-size.
>
> Good Luck,
> HTH,
> Jon
>
While we are on this subject, why, with a 10 day cycle, working over 30 
vtapes of nominally 3.2 GB per vtape, does amanda's planner absolutely 
refuse to use a level 2 or beyond?  It often promotes a level 2 to a 
level 0 when it has 6+ days left in its 10 day cycle.

The end result is a 1 TB drive with those 30 vtapes on it, stays at about 
87-90% capacity. Currently doing this machine, 2 in the shop and 4 in 
the garage every night.

I'd love to setup a 4 day cycle, but amanda refuses to co-operate.

Another is that the planner can setup a level 2, say so in the email I 
get when its done, but 40 lines down in a 57 active line lde, when it 
has actually done it, something is getting confused and a level 0 is 
actually done to that DLE the planner said it was going to do a level 2 
of.

Not a good way to run a train. But this year is into the 19th year I've 
been using amanda.

Here is a furinstance
planner: Incremental of coyote:/GenesAmandaHelper-0.61 bumped to level 4.
coyote  /GenesAmandaHelper-0.61     0    7084    3333  47.1 12:58  4387.5  
0:35 97515.3

My logs are loaded with similar furinstances...

> * DLE == Disk List Entry, the unit of backup for amanda.  A DLE
>   may be a file system (say / the root fs) or other more complex
>   entries (like root but not /var or /opt or /usr/local which are
>   backed up in other DLEs


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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