On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 07:17:54PM -0600, Alves, Prashant wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan, 
> 
> Sorry for the late reply. I have lost access to the pc that was similar
> to your setup so I will not be able to do any experiments. My replies
> are below. 
             No need to!  The solution to my problem was absurdly
             simple.  I have suspected for quite a while that I
             needed  pulseaudio to work "on top of" ("underneath"?
             "alongside of"?) alsa.  I have in /etc/init.d/
             an executable named also-utils, also one named
             pulseaudio.   From my "research"(aka searching helplessly
             around on the Internet) I discovered that ALSA needs
             pulseaudio to function.  So I ran the command
                   pulseaudio --start
             and got an error message.  "well, that didn't work!"
             I thought, and went back to experimenting.  Several
             hours later, I tried a video I have, using vlc,
             and Lo and Behold!  the sound was there, perfect.  ? ? ?
             I ran   ps aux | grep pulse  and pulseaudio was
             running.  The error message was a fake warning of
             some sort  ?  ?  ?

             So now I'm happy.  I've closed my bug report to
             Debian -- the first report I've filed in 10 years
             of using Debian -- and I can get off this
             alsa-users E-list.   I haven't yet figured out: am I
             stupid, or what?  <g>  You gentlemen can tell me what
             you think<g>.

> >> Did you check alsamixer to ensure that the outputs are not muted ? Also if 
> >> you have pulseaudio installed, you would have to check pulse audio mixer 
> >> to ensure the sound is not muted there (or remove pulseaudio to debug or 
> >> reduce complexity).
> 
        Alsomixer, also amixer, work fine now.  I know I can turn the
        sound on or off, adjust the level, etc, if I need to.  But
        I plan to follow the old maxim:  "if it ain't broke, don't
        fix it."

        There is one slight issue remaining:  the executable
        /etc/init.d/pulseaudio is not working on my system, for I
        had to run the command   pulseaudio  --start  this morning
        when I turned my machine on.  Do you know how to make it
        work?  It is of course no problem to run   pulseaudio --start
        by hand, and I can probably put this command into my
        .bashrc, but still . . .

> [prashant] Unless you really need pulseaudio why don't you remove
> pulseaudio for debug purposes (
         Just for curiosity's sake: what other Linux program
         could I substitute for pulseaudio?  Someday, when I've
         picked myself up off the floor, I might feel like playing
         with it.  I am a musician, play violin and viola, so
         the temptation is there.

> You would have to figure out the card and device. I do not remember the
> commands I used to figure those out and unfortunately as I mentioned
> earlier cannot experiment on the hardware. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Prashant 
           Cheers indeed, Prashant!  I am very grateful to you for
           taking the time and expending the thought and effort on my
           (silly?) problem that you obviously have done.   Also
           thanks to Clemens.

I'll stay on this E-list in hopes of getting responses about what
other people use instead of pulseaudio.

Alan

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    that I heard him speak disrespectfully of the Equator.(Sydney Smith)

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