James Shatto wrote: > I have a Delta 44 and it works fine. The inputs are picky in that they need > to be fed with a line level source. Which for me means using a microphone > preamp. Even on some sources that may not need one in other circumstances / > other cards. > > That being said, the unknown symbol is common. If insmod-ing without deps, > you can only do this in a specific order. If you boot using lilo and didn't > rerun lilo to install the newer kernel, then it may be having version > conflicts. If you didn't run depmod -ae after installing the newer alsa you > might also have trouble. > > snd-ice1712 should be the right module(s). For me I modify the > /etc/modules.conf configuration or modprobe.d / modutil.d modern equivalents. > While disabling distro supplied defaults. In my case it looks something > like this. > > # /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_custom > > alias char-major-116 snd > alias char-major-14 soundcore > > options snd major=116 cards_limit=1 > options snd-ice1712 index=0 > > alias snd-card-0 snd-ice1712 > alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 > alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss > alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss > alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss > > # END > > With this configuration, anytime you try to use the sound device the modules > are automatically loaded. Also when you modprobe snd-ice1712, it picks up > the dependants in whatever order they were supposed to be used in. > > Reindexing it to 0 makes it the default soundcard. There's other ways to do > that, but this simplifies things for OSS type apps. Like festival / mozilla > / ..... > > There are other issues if you're not using udev and/or didn't run the > snddevices script to create the /dev devices (not to be run if you ARE using > udev). But that doesn't appear to be your issue. And other ways to > implement the above custom configuration with alsaconf and other utilities. > I just never got them to work for me back in the day, and never adapted to > letting current tools try to do it for me. > > - James >
Julien Claassen wrote: > John! > with which kernel/ALSA did you test your Delta card? > Another short idea, though perhaps not too helpful taken by itself: > Your problem with the new ALSA seems to be a depencence problem. It > looks like your ALSA needs some other module loaded first, to have > some symbols. I don't know: did you run a depmod -a? I don't have a > Delta 66 but a delta1010lt and it works great. It also worked with > 2.6.24.something-rt > But I always built my kernels on my own. And I use the built-in ALSA > and compile the absolute minimum of module ncessary. > Kindest regards and soory I couldn't be of morehelp > Julien Hello, Thanks for the responses. James: I've heard that the inputs are picky, I am running my sources into a mixing console, then out from there into the breakout box (standard Delta box supplied with the card). I ran depmod -ae per your suggestion, it helped, but still not loading the modules. It only has one FATAL error now. WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/acore/snd.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_seq_device (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/acore/seq/snd-seq-device.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_rawmidi (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/acore/snd-rawmidi.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_mpu401_uart (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/drivers/mpu401/snd-mpu401-uart.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_i2c (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/i2c/snd-i2c.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/acore/snd-timer.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_pcm (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/acore/snd-pcm.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_cs8427 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/i2c/snd-cs8427.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_ak4xxx_adda (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/i2c/other/snd-ak4xxx-adda.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/ice1712/snd-ice17xx-ak4xxx.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) FATAL: Error inserting snd_ice1712 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/ice1712/snd-ice1712.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) I did not run the snddevices script because the alsa-project.org page http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-ice1712 said to use it if you were running the driver version older than 0.9 (something), which I'm not. Also, I am not sure what udev is or how to know if I am using it. By the way, I boot from grub and not from lilo. As far as I know, I followed the instructions on the alsa-project.org page I mentioned about modules.conf, etc. but they were not very clear to me, however, I pasted your configuration into /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base (which is when it started only having one FATAL error), and I then ran alsaconf, but got the same result. Julien: Right now, I am testing, well trying to, under kernel 2.6.24-19-generic (#1 SMP Wed Aug 20 17:53:40 UTC 2008) (taken from sysinfo) with ALSA 1.0.17. I see many people saying that their similar card works, I was wondering if the problem has anything to do with the 64bit ubuntu I am using, because the card worked well in 32 bit Windows. Thanks for your help, John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
