On 11/3/07, Nigel Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Saturday 03 November 2007 21:35, Eron Lloyd wrote:
> > On Saturday 03 November 2007, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > > On Saturday 03 November 2007 19:25, Eron Lloyd wrote:
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to get my Native Instruments Audio Kontrol 1 external USB
> > > > sound card to work with OpenSUSE 10.3, but I cannot find the drivers
> > > > for it, specifically the snd_usb_caiaq module. It doesn't show up in
> > > > YaST, but I remember reading that this version of ALSA includes
> those
> > > > drivers. Is there any reason OpenSUSE wouldn't include them? Could I
> > > > manually link this driver from the source?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Eron
> > >
> > > Hi Eron. I don't run SuSe, but I've just looked on my Debian Etch
> > > install, where I recently upgraded the Alsa driver to 1.0.15 (current
> > > stable) just for practice, and looking in
> > > /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-686/kernel/sound/usb, the snd-usb-caiaq module
> > > exists. checking on an earlier kernel
> > > (2.6.18-4-686) where I havn't upgraded alsa to 1.0.15, the
> snd-usb-caiaq
> > > module doesn't exist.
> > >
> > > Which is your current alsa driver? Run,
> > > cat /proc/asound/version
> > > Before I upgraded the alsa driver, IIRC it was 1.0.12rc2 for this
> Debian
> > > kernel.
> > >
> > > The module you want may have just recently been added to the alsa
> driver,
> > > and upgrading the alsa driver may resolve your problem. Link below.
> > > http://alsa-project.org/
> > >
> > > I've only practiced upgrading the Alsa driver on Fedora, Archlinux,
> and
> > > Debian, but you at least need the kernel headers installed for your
> > > running kernel.
> > >
> > > With Archlinux, the headers were all I needed.
> > > With Fedora, I needed the headers, and the kernel-devel package.
> > > With Debian, installing the headers also pulled in linux-kbuild-2.6.18
> > > (obviously for the 2.6.18-5-686 kernel that I was going to upgrade the
> > > alsa driver against)
> > >
> > > Have a go at upgrading the alsa driver, as it may well resolve your
> > > problem. and please post back with which packages need to be installed
> to
> > > carry out this procedure on SuSe.
> > >
> > > Once you have downloaded the latest alsa driver, cd to it's location,
> and
> > > simply run,
> > > ./configure
> > > followed by
> > > make
> > > su to root, and then,
> > > make install
> > >
> > > Personally I reboot after all that has completed, and checking with,
> > > cat /proc/asound/version
> > > should now show the 1.0.15 version installed, and just maybe your
> problem
> > > is resolved.
> > >
> > > All the best.
> > >
> > > Nigel.
>
> > Hello Nigel,
> >
> > First off, thanks for the response. I've built ALSA 1.0.15 from source
> (all
> > packages) and restarted the machine. Calling /proc/asound/version indeed
> > gives me:
> >
> > Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.15.
> > Compiled on Nov 3 2007 for kernel 2.6.22.9-0.4-default (SMP)
> >
> > and the driver I seek, snd-usb-caiaq.ko, is indeed present in the
> directory
> >
> > /lib/modules/2.6.22.9-0.4-default/kernel/sound/usb/caiaq/
> >
> > When attempting to configure it using the system tool YaST, however, I
> > can't see it in the list. Is there a way I could manually configure it
> > using alsa tools? Should I copy the module to the parent directory where
> > the other snd-usb-*.ko files are?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Eron Lloyd
>
> Hi Eron. As I've said I don't have a SuSe install. I'm on dialup and it
> takes
> some time to download the iso's, but I've done this for Fedora. perhaps I
> should do this for SuSe. At least I will know how it works then.
>
> Back to your problem. What is the output of lsmod (maybe /sbin/lsmod), and
> do
> you have any entries for the soundcard in /etc/modprobe.conf?. if the
> module
> is showing as loaded in lsmod, you may just have to adjust settings in
> alsamixer (install alsa-utils if you don't already have it installed).
> Just
> start alsamixer on the CLI (konsole) (Terminal). Often sound is muted as
> default, to save your speakers, and ears. The "M" key toggles the
> mute/unmute
>
> To see if the card is detected, and particularly if you also have an
> onboard
> soundcard, post the output of the command below.
> cat /proc/asound/cards
>
> Nigel.
>
Hello Nigel,
Well, hopefully we can resolve this on my system for both our knowledge. The
output of
cat /proc/asound/cards yields:
0 [A1 ]: snd-usb-caiaq - Audio Kontrol 1
Native Instruments Audio Kontrol 1 (serial
SN-SN-8CXD0HYT7W, usb-0000:00:1d.7-3)
1 [Control ]: USB-Audio - TotalTrack Control
Numark TotalTrack Control at usb-0000:00:1d.2-2, full
speed
Where 0 is the card I'm attempting to configure and 1 is a MIDI controller
(which isn't important). I don't see anything related in /etc/modprobe.conf,
and lsmod reports these (possibly) relevant entries:
Module Size Used by
snd_pcm 75780 4
snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_caiaq
snd_usb_lib 19584 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi 27136 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_usb_caiaq,snd_usb_lib
snd_hwdep 12932 2 [wrap]
snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_caiaq,snd_pcm,snd_usb_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
usbcore 123756 8
snd_usb_audio,usbhid,snd_usb_caiaq,usb_storage,snd_usb_lib,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
Finally, alsamixer returns "No mixer elems found". I wonder what influence
YaST's sound module might have, as there is an internal card (snd-hda-intel)
configured as the default. Too bad, I feel like we're getting closer...
Thanks,
Eron
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