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Today's 
Topics:

   1. 2 questions about amixer's output (Zbigniew Baniewski)
   2. Re: Invalid CTL (Clemens Ladisch)
   3. Re: 2 questions about 
amixer's output (Clemens Ladisch)
   4. can't get sound on gateway 
mx8711 laptop with intel        82801G
      (Robert P. J. Day)
   5. Re: 
Invalid CTL (Loris Caren)
   6. Is CX20549 the same as Conexant 5045 
for model= options
      (Nigel Henry)
   7. Re: can't get sound on 
gateway mx8711 laptop with intel
      82801G (Joris Huizer)
   8. Re: 
can't get sound on gateway mx8711 laptop with intel
      82801G 
(Robert P. J. Day)
   9. Re: Is CX20549 the same as Conexant 5045 for 
model= options
      (Bill Unruh)
  10. Re: Invalid CTL (Clemens 
Ladisch)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:02:56 +0200
From: Zbigniew 
Baniewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Alsa-user] 2 questions about 
amixer's output
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1. Does there exist an easy way to 
distinguish "output devices" from
  "capture devices"? There's not 
always appropriate remark in the device's
  "name" field.

2. Some 
devices have "access" field like: "rw---R--". What this big "R" does
   
mean?
-- 
                                pozdrawiam / regards

                                                Zbigniew Baniewski



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:07:
53 +0200
From: Clemens Ladisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 
[Alsa-user] Invalid CTL
To: Loris Caren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net
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Loris Caren wrote:
> When I try 'amixer contents' (with sound modules 
loaded) I get error message
> ALSA lib control.c:909 Invalid CTL 
default control default open error
> 
> Note that I'm running on a 
minimal embedded system

Probably the configuration files in 
/usr/share/alsa/ are missing.
Does "aplay -L" output anything?


Regards,
Clemens



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Message: 3
Date: 
Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:15:19 +0200
From: Clemens Ladisch 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] 2 questions about 
amixer's output
To: Zbigniew Baniewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: alsa-
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Zbigniew Baniewski 
wrote:
> 1. Does there exist an easy way to distinguish "output 
devices" from
>   "capture devices"? There's not always appropriate 
remark in the device's
>   "name" field.

Only the name determines 
whether the control is for playback or capture.
Some controls have an 
ambiguous functions, and some drivers give their
controls ambiguous 
names.

> 2. Some devices have "access" field like: "rw---R--". What 
this big "R" does
>    mean?

rwivlRWC
r        readable
 w       
writable
  i      inactive
   v     volatile
    l    locked
     R   
tlv-readable
      W  tlv-writable
       C tlv-commandable

"TLV" is 
additional data about the control, like dB scale information.


HTH
Clemens



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 
2007 13:52:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [Alsa-user] can't get sound on gateway mx8711 laptop 
with
        intel   82801G
To: ALSA user list <alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
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  i've been fighting for 
the last few hours, and exchanging some
posts on the fedora test 
mailing list, trying to get functioning sound
on my gateway laptop.  
i'm an alsa newbie, so please take that into
account.

  yesterday, i 
installed f8-t1 on this gateway mx8711 and, during the
install, the 
sound test worked fine.  since then, nothing.

  running "system-config-
soundcard" displays the following:

  Vendor: Intel Corporation
  
Model: 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
  Module:
snd-hda-intel

  Device settings
    PCM Device  STAC92XX Analog

  
originally, /etc/modprobe.conf contained the line:

    options snd-hda-
intel index=0

but based on what i read in the ALSA config file, i 
matched the laptop
and model and changed that to read:

    options snd-
hda-intel model=m2-2

so far, nothing's worked, so i'm definitely open 
to suggestions.

  as a start, if one wanted to report a non-working 
sound card, what
is the minimal amount of info to supply?  what files 
should be listed?
what commands run?  and so on.  thanks.

rday

p.s.  
i also suppose a decent tutorial on ALSA architecture wouldn't
hurt.  
any pointers?

-- 
========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day
Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel 
Pedantry
Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

http://crashcourse.ca
========================================================================



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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:
52:03 +0100
From: Loris Caren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 
[Alsa-user] Invalid CTL
To: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;  
charset="iso-8859-1"

On Wednesday 22 August 2007 16:07, you wrote:
> 
Loris Caren wrote:
> > When I try 'amixer contents' (with sound modules 
loaded) I get
> > error message ALSA lib control.c:909 Invalid CTL 
default control
> > default open error
> >
> > Note that I'm running on 
a minimal embedded system
>
> Does "aplay -L" output anything?
aplay -L 
produces similar 'Invalid CTL' barfs.
> Probably the configuration 
files in /usr/share/alsa/ are missing.
That sounds interesting, I 
definitely haven't put these on my embedded 
system.
On my FC3 dev 
machine, theres quite a bit in this directory - can 
anybody tell me 
how much of it is needed or how I can create it?



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:43:
19 +0200
From: Nigel Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Alsa-
user] Is CX20549 the same as Conexant 5045 for model=
        options
To: alsa-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <200708222343.19821.cave.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"

Folks on the french debian user list are having problems with hda 
intel. I 
googled a bit and found a post from Takashi, which suggested 
reading the doc 
ALSA-configuration.txt, which is in the alsa driver 
tarball.

I posted ALSA-configuration.txt to the list, and a couple of 
guys appear to 
have resolved their hda-intel problems from info in the 
doc.

Someone still has a problem with their Toshiba P100, hda-intel, 
and the 
Conexant CX20549 codec.

A bit more googling this afternoon 
turned up this:

commit 82f30040ada635d5d42a244b6eb84607d9881f5a
Author: Tobin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   Tue Feb 13 12:45:44 
2007 +0100

    [ALSA] hda-codec - More fixes for Conexant HD Audio 
support
    
    Renamed Conexant 5045 to CX20549 (Venice) per Conexant 
Documentation
    Renamed Conexant 5047 to CX20551 (Waikiki) per 
Conexant Documentation
    Fixed automute on HP Laptops with CX20551 
codec.
    Fixed recording issues on Toshiba Satelite P100/P105 series 
laptops
    Added HP DV8000, DV2000Z, Fujitsu Si1520 support
    More 
work to be done on CX20549 based systems, but CX20551 Systems are
    
much better now.
    
    Signed-off-by: Tobin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
net>
    Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    Signed-off-by: 
Jaroslav Kysela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Is this saying that the CX20549 is the 
same thing as the Conexant 5045, as far 
as model= options are 
concerned?

There appears to be only one option for the Conexant 5045, 
apart from the test 
option, and I dont know if he's using the 
model=laptop option, but appears to 
be having problems with the mike, 
headphones, and line in.

He's using a Toshiba P100 on Debian Etch, 
with the 2.6.21-rc5 kernel. 
Alsamixer is 1.0.14rc2, which shows 
CX20549 (Venice)

Any suggestions would be welcome. I can ask him to 
post his amixer output if 
that will help perhaps.

Nigel.




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:44:
21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joris Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 
[Alsa-user] can't get sound on gateway mx8711 laptop with
        intel   82801G
To: ALSA user list <alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset=iso-8859-1


--- "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> 
>   i've been fighting for the last few hours, and
> 
exchanging some
> posts on the fedora test mailing list, trying to get
> functioning sound
> on my gateway laptop.  i'm an alsa newbie, so 
please
> take that into
> account.
> 
>   yesterday, i installed f8-t1 
on this gateway
> mx8711 and, during the
> install, the sound test 
worked fine.  since then,
> nothing.

Assuming the problem is "just" no 
sound output - you
must unmute the sound card, as the default settings
are to have it completely mute. You can change those
settings by 
running 'alsamixer' on the command line
and changing them. Use 'm' to 
mute/unmute and
'up'/'down' keys to increase/decrease sound volume.

It's worth checking at least

regards,

Joris


       
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:54:
39 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] can't get sound on gateway mx8711 laptop with
        
intel 82801G
To: Joris Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: ALSA user 
list <alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: 
TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Joris Huizer wrote:

>
> --- "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >   
i've been fighting for the last few hours, and
> > exchanging some
> > 
posts on the fedora test mailing list, trying to get
> > functioning 
sound
> > on my gateway laptop.  i'm an alsa newbie, so please
> > take 
that into
> > account.
> >
> >   yesterday, i installed f8-t1 on this 
gateway
> > mx8711 and, during the
> > install, the sound test worked 
fine.  since then,
> > nothing.
>
> Assuming the problem is "just" no 
sound output - you must unmute the
> sound card, as the default 
settings are to have it completely mute.
> You can change those 
settings by running 'alsamixer' on the command
> line and changing 
them. Use 'm' to mute/unmute and 'up'/'down' keys
> to 
increase/decrease sound volume.
>
> It's worth checking at least

actually, i messed with alsaunmute earlier and finally got sound when
i'm running the cd player, but still nothing when i'm playing embedded
youtube videos.  so i'm guessing this is something other than a simple
sound configuration.  is there some reason playing cds would work, and
youtube videos wouldn't?

rday
-- 
========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day
Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel 
Pedantry
Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

http://crashcourse.ca
========================================================================



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:
19:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 
[Alsa-user] Is CX20549 the same as Conexant 5045 for
        model= options
To: Nigel Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sourceforge.net
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
physics.ubc.ca>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; 
format=flowed

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Nigel Henry wrote:

> Folks on the 
french debian user list are having problems with hda intel. I
> googled 
a bit and found a post from Takashi, which suggested reading the doc
> 
ALSA-configuration.txt, which is in the alsa driver tarball.
>
> I 
posted ALSA-configuration.txt to the list, and a couple of guys appear 
to
> have resolved their hda-intel problems from info in the doc.

I am 
confused by that information. It talks about different codecs. But
none 
correspond it seems to for example the Realtek codecs on the Toshiba
U300.
Using alsa 1.0.14 I get with the default two sliders for output, 
nothing
for input. And no sound comes out of eitehr speakers or 
headphones.
And yes, they are unmuted and the volume sliders are all 
the way up.


>
> Someone still has a problem with their Toshiba P100, 
hda-intel, and the
> Conexant CX20549 codec.
>
> A bit more googling 
this afternoon turned up this:
>
> commit 
82f30040ada635d5d42a244b6eb84607d9881f5a
> Author: Tobin Davis 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:   Tue Feb 13 12:45:44 2007 +0100
>
>    
[ALSA] hda-codec - More fixes for Conexant HD Audio support
>
>    
Renamed Conexant 5045 to CX20549 (Venice) per Conexant Documentation
>    Renamed Conexant 5047 to CX20551 (Waikiki) per Conexant 
Documentation
>    Fixed automute on HP Laptops with CX20551 codec.
>    Fixed recording issues on Toshiba Satelite P100/P105 series 
laptops
>    Added HP DV8000, DV2000Z, Fujitsu Si1520 support
>    More 
work to be done on CX20549 based systems, but CX20551 Systems are
>    
much better now.
>
>    Signed-off-by: Tobin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
net>
>    Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>    Signed-off-
by: Jaroslav Kysela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Is this saying that the CX20549 
is the same thing as the Conexant 5045, as far
> as model= options are 
concerned?
>
> There appears to be only one option for the Conexant 
5045, apart from the test
> option, and I dont know if he's using the 
model=laptop option, but appears to
> be having problems with the mike, 
headphones, and line in.
>
> He's using a Toshiba P100 on Debian Etch, 
with the 2.6.21-rc5 kernel.
> Alsamixer is 1.0.14rc2, which shows 
CX20549 (Venice)
>
> Any suggestions would be welcome. I can ask him to 
post his amixer output if
> that will help perhaps.
>



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:
54:53 +0200
From: Clemens Ladisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 
Re: [Alsa-user] Invalid CTL
To: Loris Caren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Message-ID: <46CD2F3D.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Loris Caren wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 August 2007 16:07, you wrote:
> > 
Probably the configuration files in /usr/share/alsa/ are missing.
>
> 
That sounds interesting, I definitely haven't put these on my embedded
> system.
> On my FC3 dev machine, theres quite a bit in this directory 
- can
> anybody tell me how much of it is needed or how I can create 
it?

Which files are needed depends on the driver.
You can try deleting 
any unneeded card-specific files from the cards
subdirectory.

These 
files are installed when you run alsa-lib's "make install", or you
can 
copy them manually from the alsa-lib/src/conf/ directory (see the
Makefile.am files in these directories).


HTH
Clemens



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