On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:54:29 -0400 "Dmitry Torokhov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/9/06, Sergei Steshenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:36:23 -0400 > > "Dmitry Torokhov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > You are confused. By your logic you do not need XEN at all - just take > > > a kernel version + alsa and never change/update it - and viola! > > > "stable" ABI. > > > > > > > I simply described how one ABI (ALSA <-> kernel in this case) can > > be stabilized, while new non-ALSA related features (and potentially > > unstable ABI) can still be had. > > > > If computer has enough resources, practically every ABI can be > > stabilized (if desired) this way - as long as the ABI is PCI slot > > related. > > > > And in extreme case once you "stablizie" everything you end up with a > system that is not upgradeable at all. > > > That is, I can, for example, stabilize ALSA-kernel interface choosing > > (ALSA 1.0.11 + kernel 2.6.17) and I can stabilize TV card interface > > using (whatever v4l + kernel 2.6.18), etc, > > > > But you are not stabilizing ABI, you are freezing a subsystem. Stable > ABI does not mean that bugs do not get fixed and new hardware support > is not being addeed, as in your case. > I did stabilize ABI - I can be using the same (bit to bit) audio driver regardless of changes in the kernel not related to ALSA. I can consider this whole ugly and clumsy construct as a "super" kernel in which by construction nothing changes in the audio part. That, I as end user don't care what developers break in the non-audio part of this kernel - for me audio part is stable. I let the non-audio part evolve while the audio part remains the same - even at binary level. --Sergei. -- Visit my http://appsfromscratch.berlios.de/ open source project. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
