Hello Joel. Am not shure if you are *too* oversensitive. Otherwise you wouldn't have written this piece. I already answered to a lot of it. For example, the dxs and ac97_quirks options. Also, I'm talking about 5.1 and not about stereo. Third, you seem to misuse valid arguments for the wrong case: arguing for your attitude. Nothing of what you wrote argues against what I've written in the exclamated paragraph. The alsa product strategy is independent from low-level issues like you mentioned them. It is mainly a matter of how the developers look at their "baby" (if it's for geeks and experts or a default solution for out-of-the-box audio services). Remember that alsa is the preferred solution for linux and that OSS is expected to be dropped. There is some responsibility you've taken over with this decision. If you refuse to carry this responsibility, as you seem to argue with this mailinglist being a 'gift' (am really not shure, because one doesn't get usable response), the linux guys should rethink their decision and drop alsa from the default branch.
So much for the flaming. Now please rethink my paragraph because it contains some truth valid for all serious IT-projects. Dennis On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:34:29 +0900 Joel Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 05:17:38AM +0200, Dennis Heuer wrote: > > > > Really, alsa is anything else than intuitive. Alsamixer doesn't reflect > > changes to the configuration--not even by renaming the channels. You > > should start to think about profiles and use-cases and distribute good > > settings and easy setups for the card types. > > > > Dennis > > Hi Dennis, > > The VIA82xx is not exactly high-end hardware, AFAIK. And > there is the problem that not all manufacturers provide full > information needed for those who are willing to write the > low-level drivers for Linux/Alsa. The low-level drivers, you must > understand, are specific to each sound card. Their quality > (or lack) for certain cards does not define the quality of > ALSA. > > Maybe I am oversensitive, but I think I read a tone of > expectation or judgment into your words. You have to > remember that help from the mailing list is a gift. > The drivers are written by those who have time, inclination > and/or corporate sponsorship. > > I happen to have a VIA82xx on my motherboard. It works fine > for stereo with no special options. > > Some people are reporting particular options for the VIA82xx > driver here: > > http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/notes-full.php > > There is a 'dxs_support=4' option and a 'ac97_quirk' option > that you can try. Much of computer twigging (and life!) is > trial-and-error. > > Otherwise, if you need the best possible drivers and support > available for 5.1 surround under VIA82xx, you may have to go > over to the dark side. > > If you want great sound under Linux, welcome! So do we!! > You might want to choose specific hardware for that purpose. > > You may need to search through a few web pages to find > something for your application/budget. > > This article from 2003 recommends SoundBlaster Live! > and SB16PCI cards as cheap and well supported. > > http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdext/is_200308/ai_ziff49207#continue > > Good luck to you. Be polite and you'll be surprised how much > help you get. > > > -- > Joel Roth > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Alsa-user mailing list > Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user > > ------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
