> >> The question of course is NOT why aumix has a volume control which
 > >> works
 > >> but why the alsa mixer (which surely is part of alsa) has no volume
 > >> control, and as a result I could not turn up the  output volume using
 > >> alsamixer.
 > >> Surely the complete absense of a volume control is a bug.
 > >
 > > Not necessarily, lots of hardware does not have a volume control these
 > > days.  Maybe aumix calls PCM "volume", who knows.  You would have to
 > > look at the source.
 > 
 > OOps. I just looked more closely at what happens to one of the mixers when
 > I changed the other. The "Volume" on the aumix is the "Front" on the
 > alsamixer. So they do correspond to each other and alsamixer does have all
 > of the controls of the aumix. Sorry for the noise on the line. Lets return
 > to regular programming.

i have the same sound hardware, and have made the same observations as
bill made vis a vis the oss "volume" being equivalent to the alsa "front".

what i haven't figured out how to fix is to get the gnome volume
control panel app (the little one that comes up when i use the Fn
keys on the laptop keyboard) to control the correct mixer channel.  i've
been told that the code does a raw ioctl of some sort to control the
"volume" channel.  clearly if not all systems have a "volume", then gnome
needs to be more configurable.  if anyone has other insights (or better,
fixes :-), i'd like to hear them.

paul
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