On 6/6/24 05:11, Chris M via Alpine-info wrote:


On Thu, 6 Jun 2024, Bret Busby via Alpine-info wrote:

Messages do not necessarily "just disapeared into nowhere!" - they are just hiding from you - unless you have a filter set to delete messages, rather than moving them. If you do not have filters that delete messages, then, you need to go looking for the missing messages, like looking for chook nests, to find the eggs, when the chooks run free.



It was weird because Alpine was showing 7 emails and Fastmail webmail was only showing 5. I must of accidently "s" back to the inbox or something and it caused a double copy of the email. I do keep my web browser open and I check the Fastmail website after I "s" archives2024 just to make sure that the email really got copied to that folder. I am just nervous using IMAP, like I said in that private email to you yesterday, I've used POP3 all of these years and this is the first time I've used IMAP in a longggg time.

I've always used POP because I keep EVERYTHING, I hardly ever delete an email. I've had to have AlpineĀ  make me a trash bin called "trashed" because when you hit "d" in Alpine, it doesn't move the email to the fastmail trash can, it just perm deletes them.

Then I told fastmail's website to empty that "trashed" folder every 60 days.

I tried to set my account up as POP3, but I couldn't figure out how to get ALPINE to connect, it just kept saying " UNEXPECTED ERROR POP SERVER SAID +SERVER READY" or something to that effect.

Chris

One of the possibilities, is that you may have a circular set of filters.

I encountered this, some time ago, where a message would be directed into one folder, by a filter, then, directed back to the originating folder, by another filter.

Because, when a folder is opened, the filters that operate on that folder, operate, before the user sees the messages in the folder, I was getting messages that were downloaded, filtered into one folder, then, when I opened that folder, they were filtered into another folder, and, then, when I opened the second folder, they were filtered out of that folder, back to the folder, from which they had been filtered into that folder.

Circular filtering.

So, I was getting messages coming in, that I never saw (until I realised the problem, and, fixed it (I though that I had fixed all of the instantiations, but, I might not have, because I still get some messages disappear, when they are downloaded) ). That is one of the reasons that I use Tbird as a webmail application, and, if I see a message that I think is so important that I want to be absolutely sure of not losing it, I forward it to myself, so that a copy goes into the Sent messages folder, which does not get filtered.

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Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
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