On Wed, 20 Dec 2023, Karen Lewellen wrote:

As an example, when I send a gmail, the message is not placed in my sent messages folder, instead it just gets saved to my inbox.

I suppose that, if you send via Alpine, you can always specify in Fcc: explicitly the (local?) folder where you want to archive. Actually you can also associate in your alpine addressbook an Fcc: for each addreess (my usage is to store both incoming and outgoing messages tyo/from somebody in a folder by person or project ... I never use sent-mail).

But I send via a non-gmail SMTP in 98% of the cases.

If I delete something, at least just now, it is not actually removed,

delete AND expunge ? If you do not expunge items are just marked for deletion (in alpine)

gmail is somewhat odd, I think it moves deleted items to Bin. But alpine can access gmail's Bin, and do ; A A D X (Select All Apply Delete eXpunge) to cleanup Bin. I do it once per day (my fetchmail empties gmail inbox, but a copy is made in Bin anyhow)

1, gmail uses a different folder / labeling system from alpine

Yes I guess so. I never managed to understand it although perhaps one colleague did. But I use only Bin and Spam. ll my other folders are local

2, my resource who is new to alpine is missing a folder filter step
allowing  alpine to control where items go?

Other can reply about this. I do not use alpine filtering (which anyhow works when you enter alpine). I use procmail for filtering (at delivery time), but to use that with gmail I need to use fetchmail also. Whose future with gmail is uncertain.

I think I sent you some details on my config about one month ago.


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