Carlos E. R. sent this but the web interface for gmail choked on his
message because he signed it with pgp.

To work, application specific passwords are necessary for both mutt and
alpine, Carlos E.R. explains how to get these, however mutt has the ability
to use oauth credentials which alpine doesn't seem to have yet.  Many
people have gone over to mutt for this reason.

Here's what Carlos E. R. sent:

I use Alpine to receive or read email (for sending I use Postfix in my
Linux machine). I am on version 2.26, so I'm confused by you claiming you
use version 2.5


I do access gmail account, but perhaps not the way you are thinking off.

I do not now how to write a step by step howto, sorry.

The first step is to get an Application Password.


<https://support.google.com/mail/answer/185833?hl=en>

Create & use app passwords

     Go to your Google Account.
     Select Security.
     Under "Signing in to Google," select 2-Step Verification.
     At the bottom of the page, select App passwords.
     Enter a name that helps you remember where you'll use the app password.
     Select Generate.

<
https://www.zdnet.com/article/gmail-app-passwords-what-they-are-how-to-create-one-and-why-to-use-them/
>


Once you have such a password, you can add the mail account in Alpine and
just give that application password when asked.

This is a sample configuration:

         "Gmail" {imap.gmail.com/ssl/user=youracco...@gmail.com}INBOX


This way you do not have to use OAuth2, which is a complication.

The sending part I don't know how to handle in Alpine (because I do it
using a Linux system daemon), but the trick is giving it the application
password.

HTH, and others may fill in the holes.

- --
Cheers
        Carlos E. R.

        (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))

On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 4:57 PM Carlos E. R. <robin.lis...@telefonica.net>
wrote:

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> El 2023-11-26 a las 16:26 -0500, Karen Lewellen escribió:
>
> > Currently uses alpine to access their gmail account.
> > A bit of context
> > I experience sight loss, with basic html my only direct access to my
> gmail
> > account..which has been removed as of last Monday.
> > I use my gmail account personally and professionally, its lost is quite
> quite
> > quite a situation for me.
> > There is an associate in Toronto who is aiming to provide an email
> setup,
> > configuring alpine to access gmail, but he has never configured alpine
> > before.
> > As I experience sight loss, and have only accessed my gmail account via
> the
> > web interface, I  need to
> > 1, be sure what I am told should happen here incorporating imap is what
> I
> > expect,
> > and 2, insure my associate has correct information, all of my alpine
> access
> > is via dreamhost, and they do not configure alpine well.
> > My associate is using Alpine 2.5, which I recall has a tool that allows
> one
> > to authenticate to gmail,  but I am seeking someone with direct
> experience so
> > this gets done  to the best of Alpine's ability.
> > If you are personally doing this, Can you please write me off list?
> > I absolutely positively do not have the emotional capacity to gamble
> here,
> > hoping to connect Ron with someone who knows what they are doing.
> > klewel...@shellworld.net
> > thanks,
>
> I use Alpine to receive or read email (for sending I use Postfix in my
> Linux machine). I am on version 2.26, so I'm confused by you claiming you
> use version 2.5
>
>
> I do access gmail account, but perhaps not the way you are thinking off.
>
> I do not now how to write a step by step howto, sorry.
>
> The first step is to get an Application Password.
>
>
> <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/185833?hl=en>
>
> Create & use app passwords
>
>      Go to your Google Account.
>      Select Security.
>      Under "Signing in to Google," select 2-Step Verification.
>      At the bottom of the page, select App passwords.
>      Enter a name that helps you remember where you'll use the app
> password.
>      Select Generate.
>
> <
> https://www.zdnet.com/article/gmail-app-passwords-what-they-are-how-to-create-one-and-why-to-use-them/
> >
>
>
> Once you have such a password, you can add the mail account in Alpine and
> just give that application password when asked.
>
> This is a sample configuration:
>
>          "Gmail" {imap.gmail.com/ssl/user=youracco...@gmail.com}INBOX
> <http://imap.gmail.com/ssl/user=youracco...@gmail.com%7DINBOX>
>
>
> This way you do not have to use OAuth2, which is a complication.
>
> The sending part I don't know how to handle in Alpine (because I do it
> using a Linux system daemon), but the trick is giving it the application
> password.
>
> HTH, and others may fill in the holes.
>
> - --
> Cheers
>         Carlos E. R.
>
>         (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))
>
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