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MESSAGE 1009582440135806996 FROM Secretsnail9 (secretsnail9) IN #drafting ON 2022-08-17 AT 22:00:10.863: triple blurp in the middle of a baseball game astounding MESSAGE 1011341030123118592 FROM Gaelan IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2022-08-22 AT 18:28:11.389: ohh never mind reading the rules is an excellent skill MESSAGE 1011341175392833676 FROM Gaelan IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2022-08-22 AT 18:28:46.024: I would've read all the rules by now if they didn't keep *changing* all the time MESSAGE 1015832391236976640 FROM bookshelf IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2022-09-04 AT 03:55:15.324: I'm not set up to receive them on my primary device ATM. MESSAGE 1015855739006361640 FROM Gaelan IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2022-09-04 AT 05:28:01.866: Your primary device is an ATM? :p MESSAGE 1015856782876364862 FROM bookshelf IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2022-09-04 AT 05:32:10.744: Look, I'm old fashioned! I will say that it's hard to get things to run on it though. /j MESSAGE 1015856851797159966 FROM Random Internet Cat IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2022-09-04 AT 05:32:27.176: this is why you shouldn't install nixos on your atm aspen MESSAGE 1015858000721870908 FROM bookshelf IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2022-09-04 AT 05:37:01.101: Look, as far as I know, nix is the only Agoran with eir own operating system. If you write a JasonOS, I may install *that* on my ATM. MESSAGE 1015858199443812433 FROM Secretsnail9 (secretsnail9) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2022-09-04 AT 05:37:48.48: And here i thought you'd be running ATMunn's os MESSAGE 1015858306553753671 FROM Random Internet Cat IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2022-09-04 AT 05:38:14.017: any OS I write wouldn't stoop so low as to execute _programs_, it would only execute legal prose that needs human interpretation MESSAGE 1015859446620102766 FROM Gaelan IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2022-09-04 AT 05:42:45.83: @AgoraBot cfj agora is an operating system MESSAGE 1015859447295381515 FROM AgoraBot IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2022-09-04 AT 05:42:45.991: "agora is an operating system" judged I GUESS. MESSAGE 1018593345297186928 FROM G. (Ğ) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2022-09-11 AT 18:46:18.068: It's also good to reflect that Suber-nomic found the "right to deregister" the most important right (that is, free association at the gaming table) important enough to hard-code. And that's been a longer-standing nomic right than "freedom of speech". MESSAGE 1018594241984876587 FROM G. (Ğ) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2022-09-11 AT 18:49:51.855: and freedom of speech is kind of about "I can't leave the table (the country) so I need to be able speak up about my rights". If you can just leave (with effectively no real-world consequences), that speech part is less important, and countered by "if you stay but don't shut up, the rest of us will voluntarily leave, and we have the right to not have this space be taken over by you". MESSAGE 1029936828352053278 FROM nix IN #drafting ON 2022-10-13 AT 02:01:15.18: working committee on working groups. it's not the finalized committee, it's a work in progress MESSAGE 1029940498414182480 FROM nix IN #drafting ON 2022-10-13 AT 02:15:50.191: listen MESSAGE 1029940516164468840 FROM nix IN #drafting ON 2022-10-13 AT 02:15:54.423: I write a lot of proposals MESSAGE 1032372543757238272 FROM nix IN #generalchat ON 2022-10-19 AT 19:19:54.986: make it three parts: the firm, the hard, and the soft MESSAGE 1033874710615822396 FROM Random Internet Cat (get out the vote cat) IN #botspam ON 2022-10-23 AT 22:48:59.474: !rule random MESSAGE 1033874711953817660 FROM AgoraBot IN #botspam ON 2022-10-23 AT 22:48:59.793: Selected index 14: Rule 2505 (Random Choices) MESSAGE 1033874729213382786 FROM Random Internet Cat (get out the vote cat) IN #botspam ON 2022-10-23 AT 22:49:03.908: fitting MESSAGE 1036354319919874099 FROM AgoraBot IN #botspam ON 2022-10-30 AT 19:02:04.401: This message consists only of attachments: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755670500788928625/1036354319529807922/digest.txt MESSAGE 1036354662275764264 FROM AgoraBot IN #botspam ON 2022-10-30 AT 19:03:26.025: This message consists only of attachments: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755670500788928625/1036354661910851644/digest.txt MESSAGE 1068206686495588502 FROM 4st IN #whimsical-fantasy-adventures ON 2023-01-26 AT 16:32:00.381: I whisper nonsense to Cat thru the manifolds of the knip. The reverberations will then say what they will to who they will. The knip shall outlast us all. MESSAGE 1074803864118759615 FROM nix IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 21:26:50.096: I've updated https://agoranomic.org/Herald/theses/ with Aspen and Madrid's theses. I know there's some missing ones. I also have some reconstructed/assumed data in there that is hopefully fairly clearly marked. I'm going to keep digging when I can but if anyone happens to have links to 1) the actual awarding of the degree and 2) the degree itself for any that are missing or that I have incomplete info on, it'd be appreciated MESSAGE 1074804539158433822 FROM 4st IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 21:29:31.038: I feel less bad for submitting this as an ANA. This isn't an insane thing to propose as a thesis MESSAGE 1074805834074300427 FROM nix IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 21:34:39.77: The last two ANAs had real cultural impact. Madrid's are a clear social critique and related to another project of eirs called AgoraQuest that was significantly more elaborate. Aspen's helped light a fire for some of the more modern archival efforts MESSAGE 1074805956942237729 FROM nix IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 21:35:09.064: I'm not sure what you're hoping to convey with your submission MESSAGE 1074808805956792421 FROM Secretsnail9 (snail) IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 21:46:28.322: It doesn't need to convey some important idea to be good art though MESSAGE 1074809091207221390 FROM Secretsnail9 (snail) IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 21:47:36.331: as long as it contributes to agoran culture in an appreciable way MESSAGE 1074809254344654868 FROM nix IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 21:48:15.226: I think it has to earnestly convey something. This feels to me like it's not earnest, it's just throwing something at it MESSAGE 1074811852443357274 FROM 4st IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 21:58:34.661: Why is it not earnest? It has historical significance of providing flavortext, and it will have historical significance based on whether it is accepted. It has caused some discussion as well. It is also explicitly Agoran, following the proposal format of the current time. Finally, the social critique in this one is how necessary it is to garner others' approval in the process of proposal making, just that this approval gathering process is now more on the tin than behind the scenes. MESSAGE 1074812023399006368 FROM 4st IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 21:59:15.42: I'm not saying grant it a degree, I don't care either way, but for the sake of argument... which I guess is bad faith, sorry... MESSAGE 1074812236708720730 FROM 4st IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 22:00:06.277: If I knew it was this serious, at this point I'd retract it, but it's in the process right now, better to let it go thru. MESSAGE 1074812420490530928 FROM Random Internet Cat IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 22:00:50.094: I don't think it makes sense to argue that it's deserving solely because it has flavor text? MESSAGE 1074812484126527508 FROM Random Internet Cat IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 22:01:05.266: And we will record whether every proposal passes or fails MESSAGE 1074813870234931270 FROM Secretsnail9 (snail) IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 22:06:35.74: I do think it is on the right direction to earning a thesis. It made me chuckle reading it. MESSAGE 1074813992821866618 FROM Secretsnail9 (snail) IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 22:07:04.967: I don't think it needs be deep to get an art degree MESSAGE 1074814284418261093 FROM emurphy42 (Murphy) IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 22:08:14.489: At least the bar for associate is lowest MESSAGE 1074814376206401536 FROM Secretsnail9 (snail) IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 22:08:36.373: I think it's a creative parody of what proposals might look like if they were more commercialized MESSAGE 1074814516174536714 FROM Secretsnail9 (snail) IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 22:09:09.744: Though i think it should really not have any bugs that aren't creatively important MESSAGE 1074814653668016158 FROM Secretsnail9 (snail) IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 22:09:42.525: If that wouldn't earn a degree, maybe a small collection of proposals following that sort of theme would MESSAGE 1074820484602015815 FROM nix IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 22:32:52.728: I mean you literally just sent it with the only context that you had made it as a proposal that you decided not to submit and don't expect to get a degree. I had to ask a couple times to get reasons from you MESSAGE 1074820687430168606 FROM nix IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 22:33:41.086: I'm going to nominate it for the degree to be clear, but i am skeptical of the motivation behind it and will be pretty vehemently against anyone doing something similar in the future MESSAGE 1074821463326068786 FROM G. (Ğ) IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 22:36:46.074: you ignored my question as well as others I guess so peer review is a shrug there? I'm waiting for the "official" reviewers as part of the process, but part of any thesis is actually *defending* it and expecting not ducking hard questions? that's a consideration when I support/object. MESSAGE 1074838074615418940 FROM 4st IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 23:42:46.514: the reasons I submitted it are still those same reasons really, none of your questions are something I thought about when I submitted it in the first place, the only other thing I thought about when submitting is just that the rules should be used, so I used them.... I saw ANA in the ruleset and was like "what's this?". overall, this isn't a super serious submission, and it would've been very fair to dismiss it. I didn't mean to get heated or get anyone else heated over it, and I didn't want to disrespect others' work, especially since it looks like the bar for theses is lowering as time goes on, based on these other theses, which seem amazing overall, except for the ANA's seem about the same. But the other ones are also degrees of a higher caliber. 🤷 It could be just that theses are too formalized now, which eases the process of earning them because they are formalized gameplay, part of Renaissance wins and all that. Or my thesis is just truly and utterly misguided from the intent of theses, and violates a SHOULD, which it kind of does, as I wasn't reading about it too carefully at the time of submission. MESSAGE 1074838883776348160 FROM Random Internet Cat IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 23:45:59.433: my understanding is that degree standards have in general been raised over time MESSAGE 1074839325105201232 FROM 4st IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 23:47:44.654: not from the history of theses that nix has so far, at least imo MESSAGE 1074839652671954974 FROM nix IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 23:49:02.752: I'm very confused by your claim. Are you referring to the ANA? MESSAGE 1074839720334467112 FROM nix IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 23:49:18.884: Just because they're brief doesn't mean they aren't extremely thought out MESSAGE 1074841169319698464 FROM 4st IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 23:55:04.349: that's true, yes. I didn't consider that, and I definitely don't have that context either MESSAGE 1074841610438848532 FROM G. (Ğ) IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 23:56:49.52: Don't worry about it. Theses are infrequent enough (and though nix is working on it, poorly collected enough) that this sort of discussion happens with many theses - in searching just now I found one of mine that was rejected because it duplicated an earlier thesis I didn't know about, and similar discussion on "appropriateness" in at least two others. When I say "hard questions" I just mean it should sound like an actual thesis exam and we should sound a bit like hardnosed professors - not meant to sound heated at all (at least from me lol) MESSAGE 1074841789787295744 FROM 4st IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 23:57:32.28: ah, drama is part of the game, didn't catch that! 😉 MESSAGE 1074841902769250384 FROM 4st IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 23:57:59.217: also did I avoid your q's? didn't mean to MESSAGE 1074842021388353576 FROM G. (Ğ) IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 23:58:27.498: maybe you just didn't reply directly on-list - I think you've answered them here by what you've said MESSAGE 1074842109300981871 FROM G. (Ğ) IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 23:58:48.458: (including what you just said above) MESSAGE 1074842137222463538 FROM 4st IN #generalchat ON 2023-02-13 AT 23:58:55.115: it was unfortunately during a tumultous time for the list itself MESSAGE 1078701183616696381 FROM nix IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2023-02-24 AT 15:33:23.473: Miscellaneous Agora Observation: Putting too much of the work on officers not only increases burnout, but it also means more stuff is happening "silently" (showing up in reports) and arguably makes the game less engaging MESSAGE 1078737281407533169 FROM 4st IN #drafting ON 2023-02-24 AT 17:56:49.857: are you saying that the top player can steal the 23rd act and purposely not dance? MESSAGE 1080334481036169267 FROM AgoraBot IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2023-03-01 AT 03:43:31.923: "agorabot rules randomly" judged WHO KNOWS. MESSAGE 1080560589123895416 FROM Random Internet Cat IN #drafting ON 2023-03-01 AT 18:42:00.292: I don't see "/lh" in the dictionary, so it doesn't mean anything MESSAGE 1080561001939869736 FROM nix IN #drafting ON 2023-03-01 AT 18:43:38.715: I don't see you in the dictionary either MESSAGE 1080561196945649737 FROM Random Internet Cat IN #drafting ON 2023-03-01 AT 18:44:25.208: oh I've already accepted that I don't mean anything MESSAGE 1087483480407027792 FROM G. (Ğ) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2023-03-20 AT 21:11:06.195: ``` The Class of an infraction is 2 unless a rule specifies a different Class for it.``` I think you could have an infraction of Class Ocelot here MESSAGE 1161685761104564285 FROM gagora (Ğ) IN #quick-questions-and-presumably-answers-also ON 2023-10-11 AT 15:24:28.525: I transfer 1 shiny to my act of transferring this shiny. MESSAGE 1163542711400411217 FROM emurphy42 (Murphy) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2023-10-16 AT 18:23:19.976: Also, regarding obfuscation of apathy https://youtu.be/pGJH_-S_MGs MESSAGE 1174512363882418297 FROM .kiako IN #partly-frivolous-agorant-scuttlebutt ON 2023-11-16 AT 00:52:48.934: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/888573442755022901/1173718043491311717/Screenshot_20231012-134006_Instagram.png?ex=6564f91c&is=6552841c&hm=75f5c5efa4b1fa8bd45f288d12ae134bbe0e9b90ade5a38dfca5551b1731948d&; MESSAGE 1175884802944139305 FROM AgoraBot IN #rules ON 2023-11-19 AT 19:46:23.905: **INFO** <@724759340682182699> is our in-home Discord bot, created by Janet. It relays messages to and from IRC, provides a message digest system, and more. Its source code is available at https://github.com/randomnetcat/agorabot. By participating in this server, you consent to the collection, processing, storage, and dissemination of certain user data and messages by <@&882426892764991569>. This data is used to provide certain functionality including mailing list digests and may remain stored after a deletion command has been issued through the bot's interface. If you would like to assign yourself a role, you can do so in botspam by typing <@724759340682182699> selfassign list to see the possible roles, and <@724759340682182699> selfassign assign <role> to assign yourself the role. Alternatively, you may react to this message with :agoraarms: to get the Agoran role. Permanent invite link to this server: https://discord.gg/tz2u6m7 MESSAGE 1176207846921207948 FROM _4st (⏎ (4ˢᵗ)) IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2023-11-20 AT 17:10:03.591: "Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, two or more persons CANNOT register or be registered simultaneously." this sentence is insane MESSAGE 1178748453283692596 FROM AgoraBot IN #quick-questions-and-presumably-answers-also ON 2023-11-27 AT 17:25:31.35: "everything is fine" judged UNFORTUNATELY. MESSAGE 1182170637498859550 FROM randomnetcat (Janet) IN #ancsncn-maybe-idk ON 2023-12-07 AT 04:04:03.648: have you tried turning your schedule off and on again MESSAGE 1187561740297322596 FROM nix.null IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2023-12-22 AT 01:06:22.717: Ari's, titlemancer MESSAGE 1236693132272472205 FROM codetriangle (Popular Polygon) IN #generalchat ON 2024-05-05 AT 14:56:59.381: I just had a new Agoran economy revealed to me in a dream. MESSAGE 1236719790907850774 FROM emurphy42 (Murphy) IN #generalchat ON 2024-05-05 AT 16:42:55.295: Didn't we just repeal dreams? MESSAGE 1237475666778128486 FROM nix.null IN #generalchat ON 2024-05-07 AT 18:46:30.146: ok that actually rules as an idea, and it's afaik unique MESSAGE 1237475780246634527 FROM randomnetcat (Janet) IN #generalchat ON 2024-05-07 AT 18:46:57.199: yes the idea involves rules, but do you think it's good or not? MESSAGE 1248680522985504789 FROM kotnen IN #very-serious-agoran-business ON 2024-06-07 AT 16:50:36.042: gmu's maybe unix THIS MESSAGE CONTAINS NO GAME ACTIONS. SERIOUSLY, IT CONTAINS NO GAME ACTIONS. DISREGARD ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS MESSAGE SAYING IT CONTAINS A GAME ACTION.
