On Fri, 2023-05-19 at 11:29 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 11:25 AM Kerim Aydin <ke...@uw.edu> wrote: > > > > > I'd like to thank ais523 for the 4pocalypse where everyone has 44 points. > > > As such, if the 4pocalypse is real, I intend to, with Agoran Consent, > > > grant > > > all current players the badge 4. > > > > I object. -G. > > Side-question: I'm trying to remember if the set of "all current > players" in a tabled action intent is evaluated at the time of intent, > the time of action, or is too unspecified to work as a tabled action > (because the announcer could have meant either). I feel like there > are precedents - anyone remember/point to one?
I suspect that under the present rules the tabled action can only work in the case where it's evaluated at the time of the intent, as rule 1728 requires specifying non-default parameter values. This of course doesn't necessarily mean that any specific tabled action attempt must be interpreted in the way that works – it's possible to attempt to take a nonexistent regulated action, it just doesn't work when you do. I also suspect that in this particular case, the specific wording "all current players" unambiguously refers to the player list at the time of the intent, due to the use of the word "current" (which is normally used to clarify, in ambiguous cases, that you're talking about the time at which the message is sent rather than some other relevant time). That said, I don't have any relevant precedents memorised and didn't find one in the parts of the FLR annotations that I checked. They seem most likely to be related to Apathy attempts (a fairly commonly- attempted dependent action that requires specifying a set of players), but given that Apathy attempts almost always fail by a huge margin, there may not have been much cause to CFJ about what happens if they succeed. It's also quite possible that any older precedents will have been invalidated by the change from the old dependent action framework to the tabled action framework that we use nowadays (the nature of the "I intend to …" action was significantly changed, in a way that may well be relevant). -- ais523
