On 2/19/23 13:14, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 9:58 AM secretsnail9 via agora-discussion > <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 9:16 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business < >> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: >> >>> Gratuitous: >>> CFJ 3778 found that list items could have whole line breaks inserted >>> between them and removed because they were not significant. This is >>> not true with paragraphs. If the section of text with ' - Gardens" is >>> taken to begin a paragraph, and is followed by additional list items >>> where the whitespace could be removed, the replaced paragraph would >>> include all of those line items. Or at least it is unclear where the >>> paragraph ends. >>> >> Looking at this CFJ (3778), it seems to say the opposite about line breaks >> within a paragraph: >> >> CFJ 3452 ruled that paragraph boundaries should be determined based mainly >> on grammatical structure rather than layout. Following its reasoning, "A" >> above would all be considered a single paragraph, since it's a single >> grammatical sentence; therefore, there are no "paragraph breaks" to >> contend with and the changes *[inserting whole line breaks within a >> paragraph]* are definitely insignificant. >> >> >> Grammatically, each list item looks to be its own paragraph. The list >> items following the "- Gardens" list item are not able to have all of >> their whitespace removed, as this would contradict CFJ 3778: "[there >> is] a prohibition on >> merging or splitting paragraphs". >> >> If there was any ambiguity of whether the list items are all part of >> one paragraph, or each their own paragraph, the proposal resolves that >> ambiguity by referring to one of the list items as a paragraph. > Interestingly, this argument had the opposite effect on me. Before > you said it, I thought "we've all agreed these are list items not > paragraphs, the question is whether a proposal mistakenly referring to > an otherwise clearly-specified unit as a "paragraph" breaks things. > Now I'm thinking it's ambiguous whether they are paragraphs or list > items to begin with (that is, more ambiguity not less) and I don't > think a proposal has the ability to clarify that just by assertion. > > -G.
CFJ 3910 found that text has a rich structure. If a proposal could change the structure of a text merely by calling it something, that could be an amendment (and thus prohibited unless it met the R105 communication standard). -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
