On Mon, 2023-02-06 at 22:32 -0800, Aspen via agora-business wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 8:52 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> 
> > I intend, with 4 support from other players who would be Festive if the
> > Festivity was 1, to start a rank 1 festival.
> 
> I'm philosophically opposed to using an emergency measure to stop players
> from accomplishing a legitimate objective (black ribbons are designed to be
> scammed) by legitimate means (using voting strength as designed).
> Therefore, I object, not that it does anything.

Using a rule for an unintended purpose is a form of scamming, and thus
I think it's normally fair play in counter-scamming.

However, a) we've had some new players join recently, and starting even
a very little Festival can mess things up for those players (although
this is mitigated somewhat by the way White Ribbons work); b) economic
dominance of the voting process is an entirely legitimate, non-scam way
to get Black Ribbons (as an alternative method for obtaining them, for
people who are bad at scams) – it was originally envisaged as buying
votes, but I think this might count too. The original idea was always
"do scam or buy votes", and I'm not sure whether using counterscams is
entirely "legitimate" when the thing you're trying to stop isn't really
a scam.

As such, I'm not personally planning to support this intent.

-- 
ais523

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