On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 10:53:57AM -0700, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > I am sending this email with the following procedure, using my normal mail > client (Apple Mail): > > 1. Turning off my computer's wifi connection > 2. Sending this message, allowing it to sit in the Outbox, at around 10:52 AM > Pacific > 3. A while later, turning on my wifi > > I suspect this message's Date header will be around 10:52, despite me > delaying its sending, and without me actually "forging" any headers. Not sure > this would change anything if it's the case, but I'm curious. > > Gaelan
Your "date" header is 17:53 UTC (I gues 10:53 in your time zone), and my mail client reports that as the message's date, so I guess it worked. I tried delaying delivery once by emailing myself and then only forwarding later. I tried using it to declare Apathy (but messed up the method). It was decided that doesn't work: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3795 . I am guessing it would be similar in your case. I would argue the message didn't leave your "control" until you turned off WiFi, for two reasons: 1. Until then, you probably had the power to delete it from your outbox. 2. Until then, you had the power to delay delivery. It would be interesting to consider a situation where an email is delayed by a fixed amount of time, but you don't have the power to cancel it or change the timing of delivery. -- Falsifian
