On 7/22/2021 3:01 PM, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, 2021-07-22 at 14:53 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >> Proto: dating standards >> >> Amend Rule 478 (Fora) by replacing: >> performed at the time date-stamped on that message >> with: >> performed at the earliest credible time date-stamped on that message >> >> ["earliest" because that's closest to hitting the send key, "credible" to >> make it clear that it's a matter of evidence not logic. In practice, this >> means go with the Date: field unless there's evidence that it's not >> credible in some way, in which case go with the next earliest - likely the >> first forum stamp]. > > This allows for 100% risk-free timing scams by sending at midnight and > datestamping at 23:59. That's probably unavoidable, though, and may > well not even be a bad thing. >
I should have highlighted this point, so thanks - yes it doesn't solve that specific weakness, but may be the least bad compromise option towards that - with the added note that (given the importance of reputation around here) "credible" can relate to the sender as well: "wait e's done that really suspicious timing thing 3 times now." In practice, the main scam gain for backdating by a few seconds is to act with knowledge on other people's last minute actions? And those other peoples' actions, when sent legitimately, would still take a few min delay past deadline before you see them. So I suspect to get any real in-game advantage, you'd need to delay a few minutes which would put the backdating into the suspicious range. -G.