On 8/2/2020 11:26 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-08-02 12:21, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: >> Another argument: >> >> Even if the disclaimer does sit alone in its own message, it's also part >> of Trigon's entire message, and it's not clear which "message" the >> disclaimer is referring to. Therefore, I don't think anything in a >> message from Trigon containing that in eir signature can satisfy the >> "unambiguously" requirement for by-announcement actions. > > Alternatively, just because a message purports to not contain game > actions, does that have the power to change anything? >
Not necessarily. That was mainly what I was testing and I didn't think the disclaimer would work. Take the example of Officer Reports. I'm not at all sure that disclaimer stops reports and there's a good case to be made that it doesn't. The disclaimer mainly "works" by showing that there's no intent to perform an action, e.g. it takes away the "announcing that e performs it" part of R478. But that's only for by-announcement actions. For Reports, there's not even a CAN in the rules (e.g. no "a person CAN publish a report"). R2143 just says "publication of all such information is part of eir weekly duties." If you publish the information, you do, even with a disclaimer of "no action". Remembering that a Document can be a sub-part of a message, and that a "Document purporting to be a report" basically is a report - if you had a message divided into two documents, where Document A is "purporting to be a report", and Document B says "Document A is not a report", then the conclusion could very well just be "Document B is lying". I use a disclaimer on my CotC case logs so that when I say something like "Judge: XXXX" in the formatted section, no one could mistake that for actually assigning a judge. But that's just extra insurance really, and if I did put something more action-like in there the disclaimer might not work. -G.
