Speaking of ribbons, do I have to wait at all or can I immediately claim
a Blue Ribbon for this?

On 6/13/2020 8:08 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
Caller's Arguments:

There's seemingly nothing stopping an impure person from Raising a Banner if eir ribbon ownership allows, even though e's prevented from
 winning. It's unclear whether the ribbon reset is a result of
raising the banner on its own, or whether failure to win prevents the
reset.

Caller's Evidence:

From Rule 2438/18 (Power=3) Ribbons:
While a person owns all types of Ribbon, that person can Raise a Banner by announcement. This causes that person to win the game. That person's Ribbon Ownership becomes the empty set.

From Rule 2556/1 (Power=3) Penalties:
Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, an impure person CANNOT win
the game.


Judge's Arguments:

Since the statement in rule 2438 stating that a person's Ribbon Ownership becomes the empty set upon Raising a Banner is not
conditional upon the preceding statement that e wins the game, one
can happen without the other. Therefore, e CANNOT win the game due to
the "Rules to the contrary notwithstanding" clause in Rule 2556, but
eir Ribbon Ownership is still reset.

As per the caller's arguments and mine, I find this CFJ TRUE.

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ATMunn
future notary here :)
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