On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 17:08, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
<agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 5/16/2020 8:59 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
> > Breaking a pledge is a crime. A pledge has a time window when after that
> > the pledge stops existing.
> >
> > But a pledge exists that says "I will cause cuddlebeam to win agora within
> > 90 days." That pledge is unenforceable because it ceases to exist when its
> > time window expires, but before then it's not possible to say that the
> > pledge has been broken! Any suggestions for fixing this rules loophole?
> >
>
> Not sure if we have a firm precedent on the fencepost issue (anybody know
> of one)? If a pledge is simultaneously broken and ceases to exist at the
> end of the time window, it's not clear to me which happens "first", or if
> it's simultaneous, whether the breakage may still "happen"?
>
> -G.
Proto, to make it clear:
Amend Rule 2450 by replacing the last sentence of the first paragraph
with "A pledge ceases to exist immediately after it is possible to
determine whether it has been violated."
With that phrasing we could also adapt the rule to allow pledges
without explicit time windows, e.g. replace the first paragraph with:
If a Player makes a clear public pledge (syn. Oath) to perform (or
refrain from performing) certain actions, then breaking the pledge
is the Class N crime of Oathbreaking, where N is 2 unless the
pledge explicitly states otherwise. If a pledge does not
explicitly state otherwise, then it is implicitly restricted to a
time window extending 60 days from when it is made. A pledge
ceases to exist immediately after it is possible to determine
whether it has been violated.
- Falsifian
