I didn't see that, but in any case I'm not 100% convinced by Aris' logic. Letting rule changes take effect without clearly specifying the instrument causing them just feels like the sort of thing which, if it worked, would have been used by ais523 for a scam at some point.
-twg ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, July 5, 2019 2:35 PM, Jason Cobb <[email protected]> wrote: > Gratuitous: > > This was already brought up by omd [0], and Aris gave a response arguing > that it would work [1]. > > [0]: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2019-June/040615.html > > [1]: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2019-June/054363.html > > Jason Cobb > > On 7/5/19 10:03 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > > CFJ: Rule 2598 has been repealed. > > Gratuitous argument for FALSE - R2598 says/said: > > > > 8. Any player CAN with Agoran Consent trigger this Rule. When > > this Rule is triggered, the following events happen in order: > > (a) the Politics Rules are automatically repealed in ascending > > numerical order (unless Politics has been Revived), (b) the > > Spaaace Rules are automatically repealed in ascending numerical > > order (unless Spaaace has been Revived), and (c) this Rule is > > automatically repealed. > > > > > > It's not clear to me that those events can/could actually occur - the rule > > is/was just stating that they happen, rather than stating that it (or > > something else with Power >= 3.0) makes them happen. R105 is pretty > > unambiguous that rule changes can only be caused by instruments, which is > > why we have verbose things like this in R106: > > > > When a decision about whether to adopt a proposal is resolved, if > > the outcome is ADOPTED, then the proposal in question is adopted, > > and unless other rules prevent it from taking effect, its power is > > set to the minimum of four and its adoption index, and then it > > takes effect. Except as prohibited by other rules, a proposal that > > takes effect CAN and does, as part of its effect, apply the > > changes that it specifies.nother instrument > > > > > > -twg > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > > On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:08 AM, Aris Merchant > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > With Agoran Consent, I do so. > > > -Aris > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:22 PM Aris Merchant < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Well, there's a simpler solution to that problem. It's not like we're > > > > really going to go back to our minigames anyway; that's not how the > > > > Agoran mind seems to work. If someone actually wants to revive a > > > > minigame, they can say so, and I'll probably support the intent. > > > > Otherwise... > > > > I intend with Agoran Consent to trigger Rule 2598, "Side-Game > > > > Suspension". > > > > For the public reference, the relevant provision of that rule is as > > > > follows: > > > > "Any player CAN with Agoran Consent trigger this Rule. When this Rule > > > > is triggered, the following events happen in order: (a) the Politics > > > > Rules are automatically repealed in ascending numerical order (unless > > > > Politics has been Revived), (b) the Spaaace Rules are automatically > > > > repealed in ascending numerical order (unless Spaaace has been > > > > Revived), and (c) this Rule is automatically repealed." > > > > -Aris > > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:16 PM Rebecca [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > I hereby swear an Oath to vote AGAINST any proposal that adds more > > > > > text > > > > > than it deletes for at least the next 30 days. > > > > > > > > > > From R. Lee
